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Important to consider NY and New England are more similar politically and have a coastal aspect. I just haven’t been to PA outside of Pittsburgh and Philly. Or NY outside of the capital region/Saratoga springs and NYC. Based off that I’d have to say anew England but I think more of NY state and more of PA the state is similar:
New York and Pennsylvania are more alike than not.
Parts of upstate can share some of that New England vibe, but more of upstate feels like PA than NE. IMO
There is a reason NY is not a part of New England. And a NY'er would never consider themselves one either.
Of any two states, I would say historically Pennsylvania and New York have the most shared history.
And in the industrial era you can really tie that with the Pennsylvania Railroad and its deep connections with industry with Pennsylvania and New York State.
Fun Fact: Penn Station in NYC, is named for the Pennsylvania Railroad.
It's actually an on going debate in NY where they think New York is New England. I think it goes New Englanders would never consider NY, New England... No matter how much the yorkie complains.
Long Island is similar to New England? Suffolk County, maybe. But Nassau? That's just crazy talk.
I draw many Nassau County similarities to the North Shore of Boston, Plum Island, Greater Hartford and so on.
Granted, most of Long Island is just awful urban sprawl.. the coastal North and South shores remind me of Massachusetts or New England by a long shot. Not PA lol
It's actually an on going debate in NY where they think New York is New England. I think it goes New Englanders would never consider NY, New England... No matter how much the yorkie complains.
Oliver Cromwell believed it to be and he was never wrong.
New York and Pennsylvania are more alike than not.
Parts of upstate can share some of that New England vibe, but more of upstate feels like PA than NE. IMO
There is a reason NY is not a part of New England. And a NY'er would never consider themselves one either.
Of any two states, I would say historically Pennsylvania and New York have the most shared history.
And in the industrial era you can really tie that with the Pennsylvania Railroad and its deep connections with industry with Pennsylvania and New York State.
Fun Fact: Penn Station in NYC, is named for the Pennsylvania Railroad.
I guess some of this is backed by geography. NY and PA are Mid-Atlantic.
Plattsburgh in location might be more like northern New England, but it feels like a post industrial city with grit that looks more like PA, but not like what a New England milltown looks). It feels very much like it's deep in Upstate NY, at least when contrasted with Burlington, the city across the lake. There are small towns on the shores of Lake Champlain in Upstate like Essex that do look and feel very New England'sh, Plattsburgh doesn't give that vibe.
Fascinating! I had a few friends in college from Plattsburgh, and it sounded like they crossed into VT frequently for recreation and whatnot. So I just assumed it had a New England-y vibe itself.
Anyway, I’m still interested in hearing more about Rochester vs the PA cities / the New England cities.
Fascinating! I had a few friends in college from Plattsburgh, and it sounded like they crossed into VT frequently for recreation and whatnot. So I just assumed it had a New England-y vibe itself.
Anyway, I’m still interested in hearing more about Rochester vs the PA cities / the New England cities.
I think that Rochester and Buffalo neighborhoods have a much greater physical resemblance to Hartford, Springfield or areas near Boston like Somerville than to Pennsylvania cities like Pittsburgh or Harrisburg.
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