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Why would a (liberal) middle class black family chose York over Drexel Hill or Elkins Park?
I understand you're trying to include low-key places, but they're low key for a reason. York is poorer, surrounded by conservatives, in the middle of nowhere, and has a fairly high homicide rate.
Why would a (liberal) middle class black family chose York over Drexel Hill or Elkins Park?
I understand you're trying to include low-key places, but they're low key for a reason. York is poorer, surrounded by conservatives, in the middle of nowhere, and has a fairly high homicide rate.
Affordability may be something that would make them consider it.
It also isn't even an hour from Baltimore, let alone suburbs to the north. So, you could actually live there, but work in the Baltimore area, if you want to. An example of this: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Hunt...39.9625984!3e0
With that said, I was just giving examples of lesser known/thought of cities or neighborhoods in the region that some related families may consider.
I will say that an example of someone that moved from Norristown(where they grew up) to Susquehanna Township in the Harrisburg area is this YouTube content creator: https://www.youtube.com/user/BigStar2Raw So, there are people that make the move.
Last edited by ckhthankgod; 04-12-2022 at 02:36 PM..
Why would a (liberal) middle class black family chose York over Drexel Hill or Elkins Park?
I understand you're trying to include low-key places, but they're low key for a reason. York is poorer, surrounded by conservatives, in the middle of nowhere, and has a fairly high homicide rate.
York is hell. Never would I ever. Same with Leominster, Massachusetts. He's deeeep in the bag here.
I'm going to stop in terms of the Interior Northeastern cities, but before I do, at the zip code level and primarily within a city, Syracuse's 13224 may be the best bet in terms of a higher percentage and median black family income.
When including educational attainment(2020 5 year info), it is 30.7% of black residents 25 and older have at least a Bachelor's Degree, which is just under the 32.9% nationally: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...ST5Y2020.S1501
So, if someone is looking for a chunk of a mid-sized, Interior(and more affordable) city proper area(some of the zip is just outside of the city), this meets much of the statistical criteria that may be important to families.
Last edited by ckhthankgod; 04-13-2022 at 03:21 PM..
Why would a (liberal) middle class black family chose York over Drexel Hill or Elkins Park?
I understand you're trying to include low-key places, but they're low key for a reason. York is poorer, surrounded by conservatives, in the middle of nowhere, and has a fairly high homicide rate.
Just curious, but what would be other examples of such places in the Philadelphia area besides those 2, Wyncote, Abington and the NW/W Philly neighborhoods already mentioned?
Also, what are some other places mentioned in the thread thus far would you consider? This question can go for anyone.
Last edited by ckhthankgod; 04-13-2022 at 06:27 PM..
Just curious, but what would be other examples of such places in the Philadelphia area besides those 2, Wyncote, Abington and the NW/W Philly neighborhoods already mentioned?
Also, what are some other places mentioned in the thread thus far would you consider? This question can go for anyone.
I’d honestly take anywhere else listed here before York or Leominster. No hyperbole. You provide a lot of gems, and it’s great. But York and Leominster aren’t ones lol.
I’d honestly take anywhere else listed here before York or Leominster. No hyperbole. You provide a lot of gems, and it’s great. But York and Leominster aren’t ones lol.
Don’t get stuck on York or Leominster. As mentioned, the point was just to show lesser known/thought of places in the region. If anything they were surprises to me, but just about any city of a decent size and black population will have such areas, regardless of rep. I could add more, but that’s good enough.
My questions are just simple questions. Especially to get away from just statistical analysis.
Why would a (liberal) middle class black family chose York over Drexel Hill or Elkins Park?
I understand you're trying to include low-key places, but they're low key for a reason. York is poorer, surrounded by conservatives, in the middle of nowhere, and has a fairly high homicide rate.
Maybe the idea was that if you have to live in South Central Pennsylvania, that section of York might be a good place. Parts of Susquehanna and Lower Paxton Townships in greater Harrisburg would be better from both a Black middle class and general quality of life standpoint. The problem is that when you get down to the census tract level, margins of error for things like household income in general (much less when broken down by race) can be exceedingly high, and that’s even using only a 90% confidence interval.
Drexel Park is an interesting case because it was practically a sundown town at the turn of the 21st century and didn’t even break the 5% mark until 2010. Of course, this is a continuation of Upper Darby White flight, which has been fairly rapid, and contrasts with places like Cheltenham where the White population has declined more slowly and steadily as White empty nesters move out or die off and new incoming families are mostly (though by no means exclusively) people of color.
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Originally Posted by ckhthankgod
Just curious, but what would be other examples of such places in the Philadelphia area besides those 2, Wyncote, Abington and the NW/W Philly neighborhoods already mentioned?
Also, what are some other places mentioned in the thread thus far would you consider? This question can go for anyone.
Parts of Wyndmoor and Oreland qualify, as does Ardmore on the Main Line. There are historically Black middle class pockets in other suburbs like North Hills and Penllyn. I guess some of it depends on how Black and how affluent a neighborhood must be to qualify as Black middle class.
Last edited by ElijahAstin; 04-13-2022 at 07:05 PM..
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