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View Poll Results: Which NE City would work best for middle class black Family?
New York City 49 14.37%
Philadelphia 176 51.61%
Boston 36 10.56%
Providence 10 2.93%
Harrisburg 11 3.23%
Newark 21 6.16%
Wilmington 20 5.87%
Jersey City 18 5.28%
Voters: 341. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-28-2022, 12:49 PM
 
Location: 215
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Knowing Trenton well (family from West Trenton, Stokely Avenue).. what's worse than Trenton besides Camden? Why would one want to live there?


1. I don't know anything about Trenton so you'll have to excuse me on suggesting it as an option.

2. The Camden I grew up is half-way gone. I'll give it 20 years before it's fully revitalized- It's Philadelphia's Newark. What Isn't helping Trenton is a lack of major university to help accelerate investment like in Chester and Camden. Thom wa
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Old 04-28-2022, 12:51 PM
 
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1. I don't know anything about Trenton so you'll have to excuse me on suggesting it as an option.

2. The Camden I grew up is half-way gone. I'll give it 20 years before it's fully revitalized- It's Philadelphia's Newark. What Isn't helping Trenton is a lack of major university to help accelerate investment like in Chester and Camden. Thom wa
Princeton is in the metro area, but I doubt that they have much influence on the city. I could be wrong though, as it is only about 15-20 minutes away.
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Old 04-28-2022, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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The Trenton I know is rough. https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...00-trenton-nj/

Median home value $97k. 27 %poverty, 37% childhood poverty, $37,000 household income, 14.2% college grad, 17% vacant housing.

It's not all bad but not for one second would I choose to raise my family there over any of the other towns/cities in the Trenton Area. You would choose Ewing or maybe Hamilton or really anywhere else first. Willingboro is kinda far but a much better option.

Trenton:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2282...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2275...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2209...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2083...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2284...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2265...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2318...7i16384!8i8192
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Old 04-28-2022, 04:29 PM
 
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The Trenton I know is rough. https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...00-trenton-nj/

Median home value $97k. 27 %poverty, 37% childhood poverty, $37,000 household income, 14.2% college grad, 17% vacant housing.

It's not all bad but not for one second would I choose to raise my family there over any of the other towns/cities in the Trenton Area. You would choose Ewing or maybe Hamilton or really anywhere else first. Willingboro is kinda far but a much better option.

Trenton:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2282...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2275...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2209...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2083...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2284...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2265...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2318...7i16384!8i8192
To be fair, we could do this for any city, if we wanted to. Even in more popular, well known cities, there are neighborhoods that will be preferred over others. I get what you are saying though, as some issues are more apparent in certain parts of some cities.

Mercer County’s black median household income is essentially the same as Suffolk County MA and its median black family income is about $2k higher(and $10k over the national black figure). So, given its cost of living, proximity to Philadelphia and NYC and options in the area(even parts of the city), it may be an area some families would consider.
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Old 04-28-2022, 05:40 PM
 
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Mercer County, for sure. Like it, I mentioned multiple places in Mercer County.


Trenton? Why?


If you’re middle class it makes no sense unless you lived there for many decades already: just tryna be practical. I’ve been to Trenton literally 20+ times over 25 years. Man asked about Trenton and I gave him a straight, realistic answer. The predominate vibe is poverty.

There is a big difference between living in a big city and living in Trenton. For many reasons.
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Old 04-28-2022, 06:10 PM
 
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The Trenton I know is rough. https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...00-trenton-nj/

Median home value $97k. 27 %poverty, 37% childhood poverty, $37,000 household income, 14.2% college grad, 17% vacant housing.

It's not all bad but not for one second would I choose to raise my family there over any of the other towns/cities in the Trenton Area. You would choose Ewing or maybe Hamilton or really anywhere else first. Willingboro is kinda far but a much better option.

Trenton:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2282...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2275...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2209...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2083...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2284...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2265...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2318...7i16384!8i8192
Some of those views give Philly's roughest hoods (Not named Kensington) a run for its money. I knew it wasn't the best city but not that bad. Growing up Trenton wasn't talked about. From an outsiders perspective it was another ordinary city recovering from its industrial days.
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Old 04-28-2022, 06:16 PM
 
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Mercer County, for sure. Like it, I mentioned multiple places in Mercer County.


Trenton? Why?


If you’re middle class it makes no sense unless you lived there for many decades already: just tryna be practical. I’ve been to Trenton literally 20+ times over 25 years. Man asked about Trenton and I gave him a straight, realistic answer. The predominate vibe is poverty.

There is a big difference between living in a big city and living in Trenton. For many reasons.
Agreed.... Cities like Chester, Camden, and Trenton are too small. It's bad neighborhoods aren't nearly as bad as big city neighborhoods (Philly) but there's barely any Good areas to offset the bad making the entire city basically inhabitable. I will give Camden credit though, it's had a huge turn around since I left and is slowly trending upwards
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Old 04-28-2022, 06:22 PM
 
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To be fair, we could do this for any city, if we wanted to. Even in more popular, well known cities, there are neighborhoods that will be preferred over others. I get what you are saying though, as some issues are more apparent in certain parts of some cities.

Mercer County’s black median household income is essentially the same as Suffolk County MA and its median black family income is about $2k higher(and $10k over the national black figure). So, given its cost of living, proximity to Philadelphia and NYC and options in the area(even parts of the city), it may be an area some families would consider.
Sad.

People could be moving to Trenton for the same reasons they’d move to Wilmington- It should be an alternative to Wilmington. I hope the city recovers. I genuinely had no idea is was that bad until today from the street views.
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Old 04-28-2022, 07:02 PM
 
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Sad.

People could be moving to Trenton for the same reasons they’d move to Wilmington- It should be an alternative to Wilmington. I hope the city recovers. I genuinely had no idea is was that bad until today from the street views.
Well, it does have areas like this too(again, just to be fair): https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2403...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2395...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2248...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2364...7i16384!8i8192

As you know, the thing with Northeastern cities is that they don't/can't annex unincorporated areas, as everything is incorporated and in turn, they can't "drown" out poverty crime rates like cities in other regions or states where the land area can expand. Most smallish/mid sized/even major Northeastern cities range from say 10-60 square miles which is smaller than many mid sized Southern cities like Columbia and Charleston SC, Savannah GA, Montgomery AL, Jackson MS, etc. Yet, many Northeastern cities much smaller in land area have as many, if not 2-5 times more people. I think that is something that gets lost when comparing cities in the region to cities in other regions. Living in a first ring suburb in many Northeastern areas is like living in an outer city neighborhood in those areas.
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Old 04-28-2022, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Yea, but I don’t get why people would want to live in Trenton even if it has some nice street- bro I’ve been all over Trenton for funerals, chicken shack runs, grocery stores, old head cookouts.

It’s not nice. They will be the first ones to tell you. There’s some nice streets but it is very much not the overall aesthetic or quality there and the data back that’s up. Live in those suburbs right outside Trenton.

Some of these cities aren’t it, we’ve been that route before. I’d recommend Newark or Jersey City before Trenton. They offer not to negate the bad.
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