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Just looked at the majority-black Roslindale parts you mentioned. They're a bit underwhelming. It seems mostly residential and a good distance away from the commercial corridors of Roslindale. I don't think I'd live there at this current stage of my life but I could see how those parts of Roslindale could be really attractive to many families.
Yeah. I rate Roxbury extremely highly and I could see how people wouldn't want to leave Roxbury. From all of the youtube street tours to the google map links presented, I love how many of the walkable, commercial corridors are still well maintained and have kept their historical appeal to them. I see why it's well-received amongst black New Englanders. Condo prices don't seem all too bad too. I could see it booming in a big way if all of the issues are taken care of or at least tampered down.
Yea Roslindale is chill. Its not "our" neighborhood but we're welcome and around and you'll see us in the commercial corridors for sure, but its just a mundane Boston neighborhood. Some of the better and more diverse elementary schools like the Mozart. Family oriented.
The border of Roslindale and Hyde Park is mostly Dominican then Black, mostly African American. For whatever reason Roslindales's black population is mostly ADOs in my experience. I only know one half Jamaican half ADOS girl in Rozzie. https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2787...7i16384!8i8192
If you're young and black in the southern tier of Boston you go for Hyde Park- no question. Mattapan's too dusty, Dorchester has more of lke a 'raggamuffin/scrappy/dark' vibe too it. It's like single people who arent really professional....and families. Lotta scammers in Dorchester tbh.
Hyde Parks cleary Sqaure is a blacker version of Roslindale Village, theyre probably a mile, mile and a half apart:
A brand new black-owned restaurant just opened there, upscale with drink and all that. It hasn't formally opened- it's doing private tastings each week and then opening to the public for every Celtics playoff game. But you can see a quick picture inside: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd4zRtLutW0/ The Owner is a Trinidadian raised in Boston, and two African Americans who moved here from Chicago and New Jersey.
They've already had KG come through, Antoine Walker, Grant Williams... and they're holding some political rallies. The restaurant itself is named Park 54 to honor the Massachusetts 54th who actually rained and organized in Hyde Park over 150 years ago.
There's already one in the square, Zaz- the owner is Grenadian. And lotta Patriots and Celtics players support him too
Condo prices for Roxbury aren't bad given the city and area but there obviously too high for natives. Roxburyians would like for other black people from out of state to move from Roxbury-that is widely discussed. I know a woman from Jackson and Nashville who moved to Roxbury and loves it.
For the bigger North Jersey cities, is the East Side Park area of Paterson arguably the nicest highly/predominantly black neighborhood? I ask because of this information: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-4-passaic-nj/
Newark and especially Paterson are indistinguishable form Southern New England cities. Just blacker, straighter streets (generally) and slightly fewer triple-deckers (than Eastern New England).
Wow, do you know of any people in the community that have formed a company to "buy back the block" in a sense, in order to keep the character of the neighborhood intact? Something similar was done in parts of Brooklyn in order to keep neighborhoods there from being completely gentrified/keep the culture intact.
Here a cool example of community investment n recreation. I've mentioned Jazz Urbanmany times before- what I didn't know is that it had a community ownership model. I think many are resigned ot the fact that Roxbury will eventually be a diverse neighborhood not a black one. But there has been a real focus on preserving community institutions and black culture. This is not the only example of this..
“I always think about things kind of being full circle,†Grace says. “I did not have the privilege and honor to know what it looked like when the building was active. It was always something I just wondered about. It needed more investment, more love and more care. I love being able to come home and nurture something that was such a big part of my childhood.â€
^Also worth noting there are Community Land Trusts in Black Boston (i have family in one) and a few co-ops too
Like many other young Black children growing up in Boston, Grace remembers going shopping with her mother on Saturday mornings in Dudley Square: at department stores, street vendors lining the sidewalks, or A Nubian Notion, a landmark family-owned convenience store and boutique. The area was once known as Boston’s “other downtown.†Dudley Square had an elevated rail station until 1987, and still has one of the largest bus stations in the city where more than a dozen bus routes connect.
“‘Going Down Dudley’ is what we used to call it,†Grace says. “[The Ferdinand Furniture building] was definitely a cornerstone of the neighborhood, but it looked shuttered.â€
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It was a pleasant surprise that the city’s economic development agency leadership was among the first to reach out to Bill Banfield to encourage him to submit a proposal for the former Ferdinand Furniture storefront.
A Detroit native, Banfield first moved to Boston in the 1980s, landing a job teaching music at Madison Park High School, just a few blocks from Dudley Square. An accomplished jazz producer, composer and guitarist in his own right, Banfield eventually took a page out of Motown founder Berry Gordy’s book and borrowed some cash from his parents to start his own recording label.
Banfield’s work took him away from Boston for a while, but he eventually returned to take a professor position at Boston’s world-famous Berklee College of Music. Around that time, in the late 2000s, he started collaborating with Nia Grace to reinvigorate the local jazz performance scene in Boston. They started at Darryl’s, where Grace was still just a manager. She acquired the restaurant in 2018.
While Darryl’s is technically in Roxbury, it’s at the very northern edge of the neighborhood. Banfield dreamed of something bigger to draw people to the commercial heart of historic Black Boston, now known as Nubian Square. The city officially renamed the square in 2019, a tribute to the broader notion of Nubia, a region of the African continent, being symbolic of the area’s Black heritage.
“Darryl’s had certainly been an important place, and there were other places but we didn’t have the kind of mainstream venue that, say, Scullers represented for Cambridge,†Banfield says. “Boston really needed it.â€
There is another Detroit native involved in the ownership team too, Tuhran Dorsey.
This is in conjunction with the construction that is about to begin on another community-investment development, Nubian Ascends which will have an art gallery, artist housing, a parking garage and more. And people can invest for as little as $600 dollras. It will be built on a vacant lot.
For the bigger North Jersey cities, is the East Side Park area of Paterson arguably the nicest highly/predominantly black neighborhood? I ask because of this information: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-4-passaic-nj/
^arent all these places firmly and squarely in North Jersey?? Were not talking Metuchen here..
I had to do some edits lol. See the edits. Plainfield is in Union County but is really Central Jersey. Plainfield is considered "slow" by some in the bigger North Jersey cities.
I had to do some edits lol. See the edits. Plainfield is in Union County but is really Central Jersey. Plainfield is considered "slow" by some in the bigger North Jersey cities.
lmao, Plainfield is literally north of Staten Island and just as far north as Linden.. North Jersey people are weird. how is north jersey only like 2 counties in their opinion? That's never made sense to me. Usualy they wont even acknowledge central jersey it slike once youre past rahway its south jersey lol.
lmao, Plainfield is literally north of Staten Island and just as far north as Linden.. North Jersey people are weird. how is north jersey only like 2 counties in their opinion? That's never made sense to me. Usualy they wont even acknowledge central jersey it slike once youre past rahway its south jersey lol.
lol whether central Jersey exists and where it begins is an eternal debate. growing up we also said we were from Central Jersey. It's a cultural/geographic designation--really Central Jersey only started to form an identity in the last few decades as more people moved there. Technically all of Central Jersey is North Jersey depending on who you ask. When I went to college, people said New Brunswick was North Jersey lol.
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