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View Poll Results: Which NE City would work best for middle class black Family?
New York City 49 14.37%
Philadelphia 176 51.61%
Boston 36 10.56%
Providence 10 2.93%
Harrisburg 11 3.23%
Newark 21 6.16%
Wilmington 20 5.87%
Jersey City 18 5.28%
Voters: 341. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-09-2021, 07:19 AM
 
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To bring this back to NYC, another option outside of the city that still offer an urban experience that hasn’t been mentioned is Mount Vernon NY’s Fleetwood section(about 30 minutes to Grand Central Station on the Harlem Line and a separate walkable, middle class district): https://goo.gl/maps/V375SRrqGqKVNjux9

It is in the western portion of this zip code: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/86000US10552-10552/

I believe the public elementary schools are solid/good, with good select public school options(STEAM Academy & Denzel Washington School of the Arts HS) and private school(Montfort Academy) in the city. Some go with a private HS like Archbishop Stepinac in White Plains or Iona Prep in New Rochelle nearby.

An actress that lives in the city(and is a Houston native): https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.loh...amp/4006743002

This former New Jack Swing/R&B artist is on the school board: https://m.facebook.com/groups/596826587706293/

It is one of the most population dense municipalities in the country: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...er_square_mile

It is also the 8th biggest city in NY State.

Fleetwood neighborhood and Mount Vernon information: https://www.westchesterdaddy.com/fleetwood/

https://www.estately.com/NY/Fleetwood,_Mount_Vernon

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...k,US/PST045219

https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000035289
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000035289

https://www.themontfortacademy.org/

https://cmvny.com/mayors-office/#
https://cmvny.com/#
https://www.mtvernoncsd.org/Page/1535
https://www.mtvernoncsd.org/Page/1508
https://www.westchesterlegislators.com/district-13

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_...Notable_people
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Old 01-09-2021, 03:17 PM
 
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No it's not the best. But the ratio of 17 to 2 is indicative of something IMO, it's just a huge gap and honestly, it would make sense. Black people in Boston are probably more likely to be middle or upper class simply because of the expense that comes with living here-that doesn't seem too far fetched. And if the median is 58k that includes all the poor and working-class folks- What are the middle-class black families making? The ones whose children pepper private and suburban schools all over the Boston Area, especially along the southern part.

The same goes for Philadelphia of course but 41k is just such an abnormally low starting point compared to most major metros-that it's a bit of a red flag. I'm not surprised the COL on a metro level was slightly in Boston favor, the entire place just has a more polished vibe and I say this as someone who admittedly has seen much of the nicer parts of the Philly Area, but the amount that's worse than anything in Eastern MA is honestly?? shocking and uncomfortable when you're first getting to see the place. You come to see past that and understand that that is part of "affordability". Its not all that makes an area affordable but it's definitely a part of it and your tolerance for that is based off where you were raised.

Coatesville-based of it's C-D profile i just looked at and what you showed me- seems socioeconomically similar to Lynn when adjusted for COL. Those street view images were pleasant and Malden-esque (PA style) but the child poverty and poverty rate is alarming to say the very least. I once saw a Rip Hamilton mini-doc and it went to his neighborhood in Coatesville and it wasn't looking too hot.
it mite be dependant upon specific black ethnicity within boston:
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Of all nonwhite groups for which estimates could be made, Caribbean black households have the highest median wealth with $12,000, which is only 5 percent of the wealth attributed to white households in the Boston MSA.
the color of wealth in boston - federal reserve bank of boston

even still the wealth disparity is still high across races.
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Old 01-09-2021, 03:40 PM
 
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Yes, these are current mayors.

I say that the borough president is a little bit different, because technically both the Bronx and Brooklyn are also counties(Bronx County and Kings County) and have the same boundaries. So, they are more in line with county executives. https://www.brooklyn-usa.org/eric-adams-bio/

About Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz Jr. – The Office of The Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz Jr. (Afro-Latino)

The deputy presidents are black women: https://www.brooklyn-usa.org/bio-cha...-lewis-martin/

About Deputy Borough President Marricka Scott-McFadden – The Office of The Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz Jr.
then the county (commissioner ?) of montgomery, pa is black... possibly others.

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Old 01-09-2021, 05:38 PM
 
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then the county (commissioner ?) of montgomery, pa is black... possibly others.
Who is that? I don’t know if there are many county executives that are black besides this guy in Chemung County NY(Elmira): https://www.chemungcountyny.gov/depa...tive/index.php He was the county sheriff previously.
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Old 01-09-2021, 08:42 PM
 
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it mite be dependant upon specific black ethnicity within boston:
the color of wealth in boston - federal reserve bank of boston

even still the wealth disparity is still high across races.
That wealth data was based on like 2006-2010 (Great Recession) data if you look into it. It also only asked like 80 black people total.
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Old 01-09-2021, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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then the county (commissioner ?) of montgomery, pa is black... possibly others.
Montgomery County, Pa., is run by a three-member county commission, one member of which must be of the minority party (Republican for the last 12 years or so).

The vice chair of the county commissioners is Black.

(The chair's hubby and I were classmates in college.)

One of the seven members of the Lower Merion Township Commission is also Black. (They're elected by district; his district includes South Ardmore. Lower Merion Township is Montgomery County's most populous municipality.)
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Old 01-10-2021, 04:38 AM
 
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Who is that? I don’t know if there are many county executives that are black besides this guy in Chemung County NY(Elmira): https://www.chemungcountyny.gov/depa...tive/index.php He was the county sheriff previously.
i think i am confusing this guy but he is listed as vice chair:
https://montcopa.org/2717/Kenneth-E-...-Jr-Vice-Chair
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Old 01-10-2021, 04:10 PM
 
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At the school district level, here are school districts in the region where at least 20% of the residents are black and the black median household income is 6 figures.

https://www.baldwinschools.org/
https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...l-district-ny/
Baldwin Union Free School District Historical Median Household Income by Races Data - USA.comâ„¢
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000049578
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000049578

Malverne Union Free School District
https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...l-district-ny/
Malverne Union Free School District Historical Median Household Income by Races Data - USA.comâ„¢
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000049551
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000049551

https://www.valleystream30.com/
Within this community: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...ley-stream-ny/
Valley Stream Union Free School District 30 Historical Median Household Income by Races Data - USA.comâ„¢
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000049261
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000049261

Other school districts/communities in the Valley Stream area: https://valleystreamschooldistrict24.org/ (covers portions of Lynbrook & Hewlett)
Valley Stream Union Free School District 24 Historical Median Household Income by Races Data - USA.comâ„¢
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000049326
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000049326

Home - Valley Stream 13 School District NY (covers portions of N. Valley Stream, Elmont, Malverne & Franklin Square)
Valley Stream Union Free School District 13 Historical Median Household Income by Races Data - USA.comâ„¢
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000049526
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000049526

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...ley-stream-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...273-elmont-ny/

All are in Nassau County NY.

School districts in NJ such as West Orange, South Orange-Maplewood, Teaneck, Piscataway and Lumberton Township come very close in either category or both categories(Piscataway). Lumberton misses by percentage and the other by income.

So, this may give some idea in terms of some suburbs to look into.
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Old 01-10-2021, 04:23 PM
 
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Bruh... you gotta chill with these NY links for a minute lol.
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Old 01-10-2021, 09:34 PM
 
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^Really? Think about what you’re saying...These are places that are likely going to fit for those looking and not just the OP. Keep in mind that in the past, the OP actually had stated that there were potential opportunities in NYC and Farmingdale, which happens to be on Long Island like those SD’s are.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/57210368-post53.html

https://goo.gl/maps/kdFVzKZWsMsXvYE89 (Baldwin)

https://goo.gl/maps/BL1BuXRkVzpCk97s8 (Lakeview, Malverne SD)

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