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View Poll Results: Which NE City would work best for middle class black Family?
New York City 49 14.41%
Philadelphia 176 51.76%
Boston 35 10.29%
Providence 10 2.94%
Harrisburg 11 3.24%
Newark 21 6.18%
Wilmington 20 5.88%
Jersey City 18 5.29%
Voters: 340. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-23-2021, 12:57 PM
 
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For the golfers, this is an organization that is based in the SE Queens neighborhood of Laurelton, with a Cambria Heights zip code(arguably 2 of the nicest neighborhoods/areas in SE Queens): https://ubga.org/
Some other clubs in the region: Black Golf Clubs - A Listing of African-American Golf Clubs and Organizations (Syracuse has/had the Syracuse Golf Association, but not sure if it is still active and they would play at this course near Syracuse University: https://drumlins.com/index.html )

Black Golf Clubs - A Listing of African-American Golf Clubs and Organizations

A couple of others not on the previous list in the region are in this list: https://africanamericangolfersdigest...an-golf-clubs/

This is a tennis club in Philadelphia: History of PTC

A foundation in the same city: The Black Tennis Foundation of Philadelphia, Inc. - Home

Other tennis associations: https://hjtep.org/

https://carringtontennis.wordpress.com/art-carrington/ (in Easthampton MA)

For the surfers, this association is in Rockaway Beach Queens: https://www.facebook.com/Black-Surfi...2705273264748/

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Old 07-23-2021, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Some other clubs in the region: Black Golf Clubs - A Listing of African-American Golf Clubs and Organizations (Syracuse has/had the Syracuse Golf Association, but not sure if it is still active and they would play at this course near Syracuse University: https://drumlins.com/index.html )

Black Golf Clubs - A Listing of African-American Golf Clubs and Organizations

A couple of others not on the previous list in the region are in this list: https://africanamericangolfersdigest...an-golf-clubs/

This is a tennis club in Philadelphia: History of PTC

A foundation in the same city: The Black Tennis Foundation of Philadelphia, Inc. - Home

Other tennis associations: https://hjtep.org/

https://carringtontennis.wordpress.com/art-carrington/ (in Easthampton MA)

For the surfers, this association is in Rockaway Beach Queens: https://www.facebook.com/Black-Surfi...2705273264748/
My landlord (we're friends) once said, "As American cities go, Philadelphia is highly variegated. As Philadelphia neighborhoods go, Germantown is highly variegated."

The boldfaced item is further proof.

The Philadelphia Tennis Club is located in that Black-bourgeois pocket I mentioned upthread (with a link to a WHYY article about it) that's contained within my low-income Census tract on Germantown's east side. I can, and have, walked to it from my home.
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Old 07-23-2021, 04:55 PM
 
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My landlord (we're friends) once said, "As American cities go, Philadelphia is highly variegated. As Philadelphia neighborhoods go, Germantown is highly variegated."

The boldfaced item is further proof.

The Philadelphia Tennis Club is located in that Black-bourgeois pocket I mentioned upthread (with a link to a WHYY article about it) that's contained within my low-income Census tract on Germantown's east side. I can, and have, walked to it from my home.
Just curious, is it a pretty active club?
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Old 07-24-2021, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Just curious, is it a pretty active club?
From what I can tell, yes. Its facility is in excellent shape.
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Old 07-24-2021, 04:10 PM
 
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Here is a ski club based in Albany NY: https://www.nubianempireski.org/

Black ski club marks 20 years of diversifying slopes: https://www.timesunion.com/news/arti...d-16070859.php

You can find more ski clubs in the first set of clubs listed here, which includes some based in Boston, Hollis Queens, Valley Stream NY, Hartford, Newark, NYC, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh: https://www.nbs.org/clubs/

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Old 07-25-2021, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Whats possible in South Boston in 2021

Fifty years ago, if one Black person entered #SouthBoston, they would be met with hostility and possibly violence. Today — thanks to
@boswhileblack
— 4,000 #Black people took over
@lawnond
to celebrate, share, and spread #BlackJoy.
#BWBFamilyReunion #bospoli


[url="https://twitter.com/RepLizMiranda/status/1419123981194567681?s=20"]A couple yrs ago my friend sheena said, “I’m leaving my job and i’m going to start a platform.” She had always been passionate about bringing people together and to help others feel at home in Boston as a Black person. She started
@boswhileblack

https://twitter.com/mukala_K/status/1419054463646642182?s=20

Thaddeus Miles
@Sifublack
·
17h
What a great day of #BlackJoy for me and many others. @bostonwhileblack
@sheena_collier
did their damn thing with the Family Reunion! I had so much fun that I’m surely going to bed early and sleeping in late
, I became a founding member


This is all a part of Mayor Kim Janeys #SummerOfJoy. I'll be back up in Boston for the weekend next week. 'Ill report back on the vibe. I haven't been since before Kim Janey became mayor
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Old 07-25-2021, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Whats possible in South Boston in 2021

Fifty years ago, if one Black person entered #SouthBoston, they would be met with hostility and possibly violence. Today — thanks to
@boswhileblack
— 4,000 #Black people took over
@lawnond
to celebrate, share, and spread #BlackJoy.
#BWBFamilyReunion #bospoli


[url="https://twitter.com/RepLizMiranda/status/1419123981194567681?s=20"]A couple yrs ago my friend sheena said, “I’m leaving my job and i’m going to start a platform.” She had always been passionate about bringing people together and to help others feel at home in Boston as a Black person. She started
@boswhileblack

https://twitter.com/mukala_K/status/1419054463646642182?s=20

Thaddeus Miles
@Sifublack
·
17h
What a great day of #BlackJoy for me and many others. @bostonwhileblack
@sheena_collier
did their damn thing with the Family Reunion! I had so much fun that I’m surely going to bed early and sleeping in late
, I became a founding member


This is all a part of Mayor Kim Janeys #SummerOfJoy. I'll be back up in Boston for the weekend next week. 'Ill report back on the vibe. I haven't been since before Kim Janey became mayor
South Boston:Boston::Fishtown:Philadelphia

You have no idea how good it feels for me to hear this.

We haven't gotten to that point in Fishtown yet (do a Google search on "Black Lives Matter march Fishtown Philadelphia"), but things are headed in the right direction, or at least they were. The sharp rise in violent crime, not just here but elsewhere, could derail things.
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Old 07-25-2021, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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South Boston:Boston::Fishtown:Philadelphia

You have no idea how good it feels for me to hear this.

We haven't gotten to that point in Fishtown yet (do a Google search on "Black Lives Matter march Fishtown Philadelphia"), but things are headed in the right direction, or at least they were. The sharp rise in violent crime, not just here but elsewhere, could derail things.
Man...if you told someone 40 years ago Boston would have 4,000 black people out inf South Boston drinking, dancing, and just vibing into 10 PM ... and it was under the Black Mayors Summer of Joy??? they would have laughed you out of the stratosphere. My mom was cagey about bringing me to Carson Beach in South Boston in 2007 because when she was a kid it was asking for a fight. I read how they tried to "integrate" that beach in 1976 and it led to a massive melee between blacks and white. It was only in '07 she felt comfortable bringing us there. Now it's the site of protests, Juneteenth events and black and brown teens from all over the city..

Things are shaping up well in the city. As we coast towards a record low homicide and violent crime rate. I don't think there's been a homicide in Boston in a month.

How this isn't in the top 2 for a black middle-class family in the northeast right now is tough to reconcile from my POV. Still it is hard to get black businesses off the ground in a permanent fashion in the more Central Areas near the Lawn On D (whee this BosWhileBlack event was held). There was a recent Globe article on a black business owner who struggled in the Seaport and moved to Manhattan to open her business with no problems. The business owner didn't allege outright discrimination and says they still want to open up in Boston but yea..issues in regard to the lease details and a digital menu board and a deposit or something.. MY friend from Nashville is bringing her 15-year-old son and 12-year-old daughter to their new home in Roxbury today, she was upset to have missed this event but says her kids are excited about the move.

I'm also having conversations with a relatively wealthy family that moved to a MetroWest suburb from Atlanta last year, they're appreciating some of the programmings in the city and have said so far so good in regards to Boston.

In regard to the Fishtown thing its amazing how other city's get passes for things Bosotn simply could never get a pass for. Armed white men stormed the BLM protest in Fishtown? And they BEAT a black man?? Yet that will never damage Philly's rep. It gets to a point where im just baffled honestly.

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Old 07-26-2021, 06:08 AM
 
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Naw I think Boston could win this poll I do not think it will because most black people haven't been and NYC is more popular generally. Most of these options are by far and away worse than Boston. No one black and the middle class is tryna raise a family in Brick City. Maybe a young black professional native to North Jersey trying to get out of their parents' house...

Hartford as a city no no no-lived there, no. Bloomfield and Windsor is a totally different story. It should probably be on here instead of Wilmington-Its a much bigger and more independent city. But this article is old and doesn't jive with the more recent stats we've seen.

Boston has the highest black median income of any major metro on the east coast not named DC. Its got more outdoor recreation, black cultural variety, better schools, deeper history and is making more strides than everywhere thats not Philly or NYC.

Boston (and Providence) is the only city on here that's really gaining black population and that's mostly due to the economy and schools. By design, it's just a much more family-friendly environment than Philly or NYC. That's immediately noticeable when you arrive in each of the three cities.
In terms of the bolded words/line, besides some cities in New England, some cities in the Interior Northeast are also gaining in terms of black population. Here is some interesting information from 1980-2010 of cities that have and still are in that portion of the Northeast.

Allentown: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=4202000

Bethlehem: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=4206088

Erie: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=4224000

Scranton: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=4269000

Wilkes-Barre: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=4285152

Albany: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3601000

Binghamton: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3606607

Middletown: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3647042

Poughkeepsie: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3659641

Rochester: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3663000

Schenectady: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3665508

Syracuse: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3673000

Troy: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3675484

Utica: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3676540

There are others as well. I think this counts alone and in combo non Hispanic at the time, by the way. You’ll notice that some had small populations, but others had above averages in 1980.

Here are some cities in New England during that period, (RI)Providence: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=4459000

Pawtucket: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=4454640

(MA)Brockton: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2509000

Boston: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2507000

Malden: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2537875

Everett: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2521990

Cambridge: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2511000

New Bedford: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2545000

Springfield: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2567000

Worcester: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2582000

Milton: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2582000

Lynn: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2537490

Randolph: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2555990

Medford: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2539835

(CT)Bridgeport: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=908000

East Hartford: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=922700

Middletown: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=947290

Meriden: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=946450

New Britain: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=950370

Norwich: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=956200

Stratford: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=974260

Waterbury: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=980000

West Haven: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=982800

(ME)Portland: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2360545

Lewiston: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2338740

(NH)Manchester: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3345140

(VT)Burlington: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=5010675

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Old 07-26-2021, 07:53 AM
 
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Here are the top 15 cities within the region by black non-Hispanic population, using the source above and in order using its 2010 data.

NYC: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3651000

Philadelphia: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=4260000

Boston: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2507000

Newark: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3451000

Buffalo: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3611000

Rochester: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3663000

Pittsburgh: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=4261000

Jersey City: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3436000

East Orange: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3419390

Bridgeport: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=908000

Hartford: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=937000

New Haven: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=952000

Syracuse: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3673000

Trenton: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3474000

Mount Vernon: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3649121

Wilmington, if included would be next: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=1077580

This also may look different with Mount Vernon dropping to 16th if there was information for Irvington NJ, which would likely be in between Bridgeport and Hartford. It is a township and not a city though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving...y#Demographics
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3434440

So, this can also give an idea in regards to bigger cities and population numbers in the region.
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