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Went both of the bolded places as well and I agree. I personally think that Block Island is a sleeper, as it doesn't get as much press as Martha's Vineyard or Nantucket, but it has a nice beach and the village there is quaint. Nice ferry ride from/back to Narragansett as well. I don't know if I should mention this, but a lady driving a taxi there said to come in the Fall, as it isn't as crowded and the water is warmer.
Mystic has a nice aquarium and the actual village is a nice, walkable community.
Dope, bruv do you just spend every day traversing the backroads and hamlets of the Northeastern US? lmao
I don't think there's a Providence equivalent here in the Philadelphia Metro, the way you described it being attractive for single 20 somethings with an active party/nightlife scene. Closest thing I guess would be Wilmington or AC? Because I don't know anyone who moves to Darby, Cheltenham Norristown ect; looking for great nightlife, it's usually families searching for safer place to raise their children rather than single 20 year olds looking to get lit without the police harassing them.
There's no need for it in Philly- you can just be in Philly because it's that big lol.
Wilmington definitely ain't it, neither is A/C... Providence has 191k people but adjacent Pawtucket and Central Falls touch Providence, share similar demographics and are also over 10,000 ppsmi. Altogether those three are at 280,000. Doesn't get the tourism of A/C. Way larger than Wilmington
Providence really is more comparable in size to Newark in terms of feel/population/importance.
Dope, bruv do you just spend every day traversing the backroads and hamlets of the Northeastern US? lmao
Very cool, good insights
Yeah, man. I just try to let the people know and don’t be afraid to go to some of these places. Of course, be aware, but don’t let anything hold you back from trying something new.
On another note and speaking of farms, this is another black owned farm in the Albany area: https://www.soulfirefarm.org/
Yeah, man. I just try to let the people know and don’t be afraid to go to some of these places. Of course, be aware, but don’t let anything hold you back from trying something new.
On another note and speaking of farms, this is another black owned farm in the Albany area: https://www.soulfirefarm.org/
So, even on the farm front, people are making moves in Upstate NY.
Yea I think some of these older northeastern agricultural plots have become pretty obsolete for anything large scale and make for good subsistence and sale to farming/local farmers market. Upstate NY, in particular, seems like a logical gold mind for that sort of thing given the vast lands, pre-existing African American population, and relative affordability.
The same thing happening in Upstate is apparently picking up in Vermont, still very scant :
Earl Ransom stooped beside a feeding trough at Rockbottom Farm and filled his hands with long strands of lush grass, straightening up beside two rows of hungry Guernsey dairy cows who couldn’t get enough of the stuff.
“I’m passionate about this,†Ransom said, extolling the efficiency of nature’s recycling. “We grow grass to feed cows to make manure to grow more grass.â€
Ransom, 48, owns the only dairy farm left in Strafford [Vermont], which had 50 a half-century ago. He’s also a Black man in a state where only 13 Black people owned farmland in 2017, compared with 6,382 whites, according to a federal survey. (compared with 3 in 1969)
In Massachusetts, the disparity also is stark. In that 2017 Census, the US Department of Agriculture recorded that 27 Black people owned farmland, compared with 6,442 white people.
I don't think there's a Providence equivalent here in the Philadelphia Metro, the way you described it being attractive for single 20 somethings with an active party/nightlife scene. Closest thing I guess would be Wilmington or AC? Because I don't know anyone who moves to Darby, Cheltenham Norristown ect; looking for great nightlife, it's usually families searching for safer place to raise their children rather than single 20 year olds looking to get lit without the police harassing them.
Sorry lots of these Providence images were that same one
Yea I think some of these older northeastern agricultural plots have become pretty obsolete for anything large scale and make for good subsistence and sale to farming/local farmers market. Upstate NY, in particular, seems like a logical gold mind for that sort of thing given the vast lands, pre-existing African American population, and relative affordability.
The same thing happening in Upstate is apparently picking up in Vermont, still very scant :
Earl Ransom stooped beside a feeding trough at Rockbottom Farm and filled his hands with long strands of lush grass, straightening up beside two rows of hungry Guernsey dairy cows who couldn’t get enough of the stuff.
“I’m passionate about this,†Ransom said, extolling the efficiency of nature’s recycling. “We grow grass to feed cows to make manure to grow more grass.â€
Ransom, 48, owns the only dairy farm left in Strafford [Vermont], which had 50 a half-century ago. He’s also a Black man in a state where only 13 Black people owned farmland in 2017, compared with 6,382 whites, according to a federal survey. (compared with 3 in 1969)
In Massachusetts, the disparity also is stark. In that 2017 Census, the US Department of Agriculture recorded that 27 Black people owned farmland, compared with 6,442 white people.
The black citizenry did grow in Boston every census from 1790-2010 (black alone shrunk by 1000 or so in Boston in 2010, but black including mixed-race grew). It shrunk by 9,000 from 2010-2020 but grew by 40,000 in the suburbs. . Since 1990- objectively- the black- non-immigrant population has grown in the MSA (probably not the city)... just at a very low rate compared to black immigrants and their descendants.
^Not sure why you think Philly or NYC is any different in that regard? They're exactly the same. They are also Cold too...Even DC, Baltimore have seen their Black populations shrink...So why is Boston being singled out?
And honestly, Many of the West Indians in Bostonians began arriving here in the late 19th century (see Louis Farrakhan, Guru, and Malcolm X's family). Cape Verdeans got here even earlier. So its not like they're a brand new group like in California, Columbus or Seattle...Additionally, I don't think that should be seen as a negative; there is a nice balance of black people of different backgrounds, many fi not most of whom are of mixed diasporic origin. That's the direction the black population is headed as a whole. Most of the politicians representing the black community in Boston are African American, as are the leaders of most of our institutions.
And naw, its not like the south; you're trying to say there are not many black people and the black population isn't growing- but that's the opposite of the south... Market St El just quoted street racism in Philly like a few posts up so... they also beat a black man down in Philly at a BLM rally so I don't think Boston has the market cornered on racism.
Boston is New England- its not the South, it's not the Middle-Atlantic.
There's tens of thousands of black people from different states who enjoy being in Boston just fine for a lot of practical reasons. I worked with or lived with more than a few. My people from Detroit and Dayton like it more than those from Miami and Atlanta. But there is also a good amount of Virginians and ex-New Jerseyans in the Boston area, granted a number of them are Jamaican or Haitian.
As for HBCU's my mother went to Spelman but immediately moved back to Boston and never left except for moving to Rhod Island on the MA border -that was for costs. That's by far and away the number one push factor out of Boston, the cost.
Any racism is much much less impactful than the perception of racism by people such as yourself. That may sound 100% crazy- but its 100% true and I think many if not most black Bostonians would agree. Is racism in Boston more grating and on your mind? or is people telling you about racism in Boston more grating? the answer is obvious.
Posters like CGod, MSEl, Stanley888, myself, KodeBlue and edwardsphuzzyhands, 908boi are all black and have been to or lived in Boston and liked it or at least felt comfortable. (Kode Blue ranks it over Atlanta as his second favorite US city) Then there's folks like CleverOne, Aries and perhaps yourself who haven't and dislike it. Thats fine and good everyone has their reasons and deserves their opinion to be respected. But I dont think you can speak for all black people and how comfortable they'll feel. And ainno way Im moving to no damn Harrisburg or Newark before Boston if I had a family and had the choice, lol-im sorry, no.
^Much respect to Newark though!
I think it's a generational thing... if 1962 is their birth year it makes perfect sense. I know Boomers that still think New York is the same as it was in the 80s, no joke, my uncle warned me about going there for NYE once because he said Time's Square was unsafe.
I think it's a generational thing... if 1962 is their birth year it makes perfect sense. I know Boomers that still think New York is the same as it was in the 80s, no joke, my uncle warned me about going there for NYE once because he said Time's Square was unsafe.
It's definitely partly generational when folks say things like the South of the north, but as you care aware its not only older people. Despite a wide array of black-positive things and ongoing in the area, many people are more than willing to sort of ignore and bypass all of that and break out the CeltiKKKS meme etc etc.
^People are very comfortable in that. Most black people in Boston know its not NYC or ATL, and were comfortable with that. Most of us really do appreciate the city and the history and all that it has and want to work to improve our city.
Mainstream inclusivity is not Boston's strong suit though but when you are busy living life and in your community thats not really on your mind the same way it is for a transplant with less social ties and obligations who isn't naturally being pulled to the more diverse and mundane parts of the metro.
I do still find it weird how no other city really get this level of scrutiny though like do people analyze Indianapolis, Louisville, Portland, Phoenix, Tampa, Baltimore, Seattle, Milwaukee etc etc etc this closely??
It's definitely partly generational when folks say things like the South of the north, but as you care aware its not only older people. Despite a wide array of black-positive things and ongoing in the area, many people are more than willing to sort of ignore and bypass all of that and break out the CeltiKKKS meme etc etc.
^People are very comfortable in that. Most black people in Boston know its not NYC or ATL, and were comfortable with that. Most of us really do appreciate the city and the history and all that it has and want to work to improve our city.
Mainstream inclusivity is not Boston's strong suit though but when you are busy living life and in your community thats not really on your mind the same way it is for a transplant with less social ties and obligations who isn't naturally being pulled to the more diverse and mundane parts of the metro.
I do still find it weird how no other city really get this level of scrutiny though like do people analyze Indianapolis, Louisville, Portland, Phoenix, Tampa, Baltimore, Seattle, Milwaukee etc etc etc this closely??
Baltimore definitely does, by both the white and black community imo. At least Boston is also known for it's world class education, history, sports teams, accents ect; Baltimore is viewed as some 3rd world city that's still like the Wire which is unfortunate because its a beautiful black city in my eyes. (*I'm also positive a lot of Baltimore's criticism has racial undertones anyway, but I digress)
Philadelphia is also scrutinized heavily too, so I empathize with your situation of people talking out their necks about your city lol. That's why you might see me come to Boston and Baltimore's defense sometimes, it's annoying for people to perpetuate outdated tropes and stereotypes about a city, especially one they've never visited.
My OG block, this particular section is working class, might surprise a lot of people. Haven't been in over a decade so things might've changed for the worst.
Woodbury Got family here too, also lived here for a year, not as polished as Willingboro but still a decent safe place to raise a family with alright schools.
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