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Just to throw a Wilmington area community out there, but New Castle a small city outside of Wilmington has a black MHHI of $69,722, a black poverty rate of 6.3%, a black educational attainment of 25.4% and it is 26.4% black non Hispanic(28.3% inc. black Hispanics and 30.5% inc. those in combo).
Another one is Bear, an area CDP, has a black MHHI of $77,500, a black poverty rate of 8.2%, a black educational attainment of 35.1% and it is 37% black non Hispanic(38.2% inc. black Hispanics and 40.6% inc. those in combo).
Middletown, another New Castle County community, has a black MHHI of $85,328, a black poverty rate of 7.9%, a black educational attainment of 31.5% and it is 26.4% black non Hispanic(27.2% inc. black Hispanics and 29.7% inc. those in combo).
Glasgow, just west of Bear, has a black MHHI of $79, 286, a black poverty rate of 7.3%, a black educational attainment of 36.6% and it is 23.8% black non Hispanic(24.4% inc. black Hispanics and 26.1% inc. those in combo).
New Castle is served primarily by the Colonial SD and partially by the Christina SD. Bear is served by the Appoquinimink, Colonial and Christina SD's. Middletown is served by the Appoquinimink and Colonial SD's. Glasgow is served by the Christina SD primarily, as well as the Appoquinimink SD.
Can’t believe I forgot about Bear. Close friend of mine moved there and he loves it, has no plans on moving back to Philadelphia lol. I swear at least 25% of Delaware’s black population are either Philadelphia or SJ transplants by now. No sales tax, and no pension tax ! I could see myself retiring in Wilmington tbh.
I've thought about the retiring to DE thing as well. It is a thing with people from the Northeast, but people from other regions haven't caught on to it.
I've thought about the retiring to DE thing as well. It is a thing with people from the Northeast, but people from other regions haven't caught on to it.
My mom was trying to go to Florida to retire and I’m like, why not the Wilmington area? You’ll still be within Philadelphia’s DMA, have the same type food and similar culture, can easily visit, and still be within the range of all the Delaware beaches and OCMD, all of this for a cheaper COL too. Your guess is as good as mine why there isn’t a mass exodus of black people to Delaware.. I love Florida but I couldn’t see myself living there, especially seeing how the residents and state/local government handled COVID. It’s like Harrisburg on steroids down there in terms of white people. But I digress lol
It's some crazy ish you become ‘the whites man team’ simply for having good white players! Bird and McHale we're nice!! Who doesn't want the best players??? I wasn't alive back then so I wouldn't know what the discourse was really like but, those teams had a black coach and black stars too such as JoJo White Cedric Maxwell Robert Parish Dennis Johnson.... And only 25 years before they were trailblazers for integration.
As far as media and film there's honestly been quite a few black movies set in Boston or MA and even some TV shoes with predominately black casts (City on A Hill and Survivors Remorse, but those are recent) about black bostonians. Proud Marry, Lift, Squeeze, the Inkwell, the New Edition Story, Jumping the Broom, the Equalizer 1 and 2. Then there's movies with diverse casts like Spenser Confidential (Netlfix version) and Gone Baby Gone.
When ever someone back is succeeding or doing something in Boston its like everyone gets collective amnesia.. Every time tough, it's unreal. The media does a white wash but there's also that.
But yeah from my perspective as someone who only knew the Celtics since Paul Pierce and Antoine are already the stars it has never really made sense to me all the way.
People forget that Cedric Maxwell was the NBA finals MVP when they beat the Rockets in 1981 and really killed the Lakers in game 7 in 1984. So, even during that time, he occasionally would be the team's best player in key games. They had "Tiny" Archibald, Gerald Henderson and M.L. Carr during that time too.
Then, people may have forgotten about the good teams with the late Reggie Lewis and Brian Shaw, as the team was transitioning from Bird, McHale, etc. I remember when Reggie Lewis starred at Northeastern back in the day and they were nationally ranked at times. Northeastern used to have very black teams under Jim Calhoun before he went to UConn and were a legit high level mid major during that time.
Mike Jarvis from Cambridge(Rindge Tech) also had similar teams at Boston University at the time. Same with his teams at Cambridge High with Pat Ewing and Karl Hobbs(transferred from Burke High and later played at UConn).
Boston College also under Gary Williams had/used to get a lot of black players from MA, CT, NY, etc. in the early/mid 1980's like John Bagley(from Bridgeport) and Michael Adams(from Hartford), among others.
So, even in terms of sports, there was a good segment of the scene that included very black teams.
Can't forget even the Red Sox during the 1980's had star players like Jim Rice, Mike Easler, "Oil Can" Boyd and Ellis Burks. I only know this, because growing up, we would get WSBK 38 and they had the Red Sox games back then.
This also doesn't get into Willie O'Ree(first black NHL player, who played for the Bruins), Chuck Cooper(first black player drafted in the NBA draft) or the Celtics having the first black head coach in the NBA and its mostly black starting 5s in the 1960's. So, it is more complicated and nuanced than the usual narrative.
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It's some crazy ish you become ‘the whites man team’ simply for having good white players! Bird and McHale we're nice!! Who doesn't want the best players??? I wasn't alive back then so I wouldn't know what the discourse was really like but, those teams had a black coach and black stars too such as JoJo White Cedric Maxwell Robert Parish Dennis Johnson.... And only 25 years before they were trailblazers for integration.
As far as media and film there's honestly been quite a few black movies set in Boston or MA and even some TV shoes with predominately black casts (City on A Hill and Survivors Remorse, but those are recent) about black bostonians. Proud Marry, Lift, Squeeze, the Inkwell, the New Edition Story, Jumping the Broom, the Equalizer 1 and 2. Then there's movies with diverse casts like Spenser Confidential (Netlfix version) and Gone Baby Gone.
When ever someone back is succeeding or doing something in Boston its like everyone gets collective amnesia.. Every time tough, it's unreal. The media does a white wash but there's also that.
But yeah from my perspective as someone who only knew the Celtics since Paul Pierce and Antoine are already the stars it has never really made sense to me all the way.
i saw all of the old spenser for hire series on amazon last year and it still holds up (although avery brooks plays hawk as a stereotypical black brute).
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Originally Posted by ckhthankgod
People forget that Cedric Maxwell was the NBA finals MVP when they beat the Rockets in 1981 and really killed the Lakers in game 7 in 1984. So, even during that time, he occasionally would be the team's best player in key games. They had "Tiny" Archibald, Gerald Henderson and M.L. Carr during that time too.
Then, people may have forgotten about the good teams with the late Reggie Lewis and Brian Shaw, as the team was transitioning from Bird, McHale, etc. I remember when Reggie Lewis starred at Northeastern back in the day and they were nationally ranked at times. Northeastern used to have very black teams under Jim Calhoun before he went to UConn and were a legit high level mid major during that time.
Mike Jarvis from Cambridge(Rindge Tech) also had similar teams at Boston University at the time. Same with his teams at Cambridge High with Pat Ewing and Karl Hobbs(transferred from Burke High and later played at UConn).
Boston College also under Gary Williams had/used to get a lot of black players from MA, CT, NY, etc. in the early/mid 1980's like John Bagley(from Bridgeport) and Michael Adams(from Hartford), among others.
So, even in terms of sports, there was a good segment of the scene that included very black teams.
Can't forget even the Red Sox during the 1980's had star players like Jim Rice, Mike Easler, "Oil Can" Boyd and Ellis Burks. I only know this, because growing up, we would get WSBK 38 and they had the Red Sox games back then.
This also doesn't get into Willie O'Ree(first black NHL player, who played for the Bruins), Chuck Cooper(first black player drafted in the NBA draft) or the Celtics having the first black head coach in the NBA and its mostly black starting 5s in the 1960's. So, it is more complicated and nuanced than the usual narrative.
i think he also had rumeal robinson who later was an all-star with portland (both weirdly enuff come from jamaica).
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People forget that Cedric Maxwell was the NBA finals MVP when they beat the Rockets in 1981 and really killed the Lakers in game 7 in 1984. So, even during that time, he occasionally would be the team's best player in key games. They had "Tiny" Archibald, Gerald Henderson and M.L. Carr during that time too.
Then, people may have forgotten about the good teams with the late Reggie Lewis and Brian Shaw, as the team was transitioning from Bird, McHale, etc. I remember when Reggie Lewis starred at Northeastern back in the day and they were nationally ranked at times. Northeastern used to have very black teams under Jim Calhoun before he went to UConn and were a legit high level mid major during that time.
Mike Jarvis from Cambridge(Rindge Tech) also had similar teams at Boston University at the time. Same with his teams at Cambridge High with Pat Ewing and Karl Hobbs(transferred from Burke High and later played at UConn).
Boston College also under Gary Williams had/used to get a lot of black players from MA, CT, NY, etc. in the early/mid 1980's like John Bagley(from Bridgeport) and Michael Adams(from Hartford), among others.
So, even in terms of sports, there was a good segment of the scene that included very black teams.
Can't forget even the Red Sox during the 1980's had star players like Jim Rice, Mike Easler, "Oil Can" Boyd and Ellis Burks. I only know this, because growing up, we would get WSBK 38 and they had the Red Sox games back then.
This also doesn't get into Willie O'Ree(first black NHL player, who played for the Bruins), Chuck Cooper(first black player drafted in the NBA draft) or the Celtics having the first black head coach in the NBA and its mostly black starting 5s in the 1960's. So, it is more complicated and nuanced than the usual narrative.
ML Carr was also the Celtics GM before Danny Ainge. Jim Rice has a field dedicated to him in Lower Roxbury/South End
BC also got many black players from the area under Al Skinner. They have again. Makai Ashton-Langford and Demarr Langford (Worcester), Mike Sagay (Bloomfield) were all on the team last year. Mike Sagay has left-but Gianni Thompson of Boston, and Jonathan Noel of Everett have joined the team. Before Terrence Clarke chose Kentucky, he had narrowed it down to BC and Kentucky. BC's head coach and two top assistants are all black as was our last Athletic Director.
I shouldn't say our- BC is the one Boston team I don't root for. I'm a UConn guy all the way.
Most top New England players opt for Providence or UConn though-as they should. After that is BC, then it is Harvard/URI then UMass, then Holy Cross/Vermont.
i saw all of the old spenser for hire series on amazon last year and it still holds up (although avery brooks plays hawk as a stereotypical black brute).i think he also had rumeal robinson who later was an all-star with portland (both weirdly enuff come from jamaica).
Didn't know there was an older version till recently.
I don't think its weird their both from Jamaicans, its a lotta Jamaicans around lol. Not as many as Haitian but yea-there are a lot.
Terrence Clarke (RIP) was Bajan, Terance Mann and Wayne Selden are Bajan too. Jeff Adrien, Nerlens Noel and Shabazz were Haitian (well Haitian/Puerto Rican). Bruce Brown, Micahel Carter-Willaims, and Marucs Zegarowski are Black American (the last two are mixed). Just a few guys I know of. Zach Auguste was on the Celtics Summer League team this year he's from Cambridge and is Greek and Haitian. Also from New England (Connecticut) Tremont Water is Black and Puerto Rican, Kris Dunn is Black American, Andre Drummond is Jamaican. I think David Duke (from Providence, now on the Nets) is Black American.
Connecticut also put the 1 of 2 Cape Verdean players in the NBA, Ryan Gomes of Waterbury was the second Cape Verdean... after Dana Barros of Mattapan.
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Haven't been to Connecticut in a while. It's a very lovely state, great place for a middle class black family, but the black people there act super bougie for no apparent reason and it's a major turn off. This one woman refused to visit me in Philadelphia because she heard we had bad air lol, if I could post the messages, I will. The air of superiority and pettiness.
Haven't been to Connecticut in a while. It's a very lovely state, great place for a middle class black family, but the black people there act super bougie for no apparent reason and it's a major turn off. This one woman refused to visit me in Philadelphia because she heard we had bad air lol, if I could post the messages, I will. The air of superiority and pettiness.
I wouldn't say they're mostly that way, it's a minor thing that exists.
But it's a small thing, I think it comes from wanting to avoid New Haven Hartford Bridgeport and Waterbury and the stigma that comes with urban black areas as a result. There is a contingent in CT that wants to stay out of their cities and thus would want to stay out of Philly. Still, I'm kind of surprised she wouldn't want to make a quick run down to Philly.
Sort of like how many black people in the DMV feel about Baltimore, but way less pervasive than the DMV boujieness.
Didn't know there was an older version till recently.
I don't think its weird their both from Jamaicans, its a lotta Jamaicans around lol. Not as many as Haitian but yea-there are a lot.
Terrence Clarke (RIP) was Bajan, Terance Mann and Wayne Selden are Bajan too. Jeff Adrien, Nerlens Noel and Shabazz were Haitian (well Haitian/Puerto Rican). Bruce Brown, Micahel Carter-Willaims, and Marucs Zegarowski are Black American (the last two are mixed). Just a few guys I know of. Zach Auguste was on the Celtics Summer League team this year he's from Cambridge and is Greek and Haitian. Also from New England (Connecticut) Tremont Water is Black and Puerto Rican, Kris Dunn is Black American, Andre Drummond is Jamaican. I think David Duke (from Providence, now on the Nets) is Black American.
Connecticut also put the 1 of 2 Cape Verdean players in the NBA, Ryan Gomes of Waterbury was the second Cape Verdean... after Dana Barros of Mattapan.
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