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View Poll Results: Which NE City would work best for middle class black Family?
New York City 49 14.37%
Philadelphia 176 51.61%
Boston 36 10.56%
Providence 10 2.93%
Harrisburg 11 3.23%
Newark 21 6.16%
Wilmington 20 5.87%
Jersey City 18 5.28%
Voters: 341. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-27-2021, 01:55 PM
 
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ML Carr was also the Celtics GM before Danny Ainge. Jim Rice has a field dedicated to him in Lower Roxbury/South End


BC also got many black players from the area under Al Skinner. They have again. Makai Ashton-Langford and Demarr Langford (Worcester), Mike Sagay (Bloomfield) were all on the team last year. Mike Sagay has left-but Gianni Thompson of Boston, and Jonathan Noel of Everett have joined the team. Before Terrence Clarke chose Kentucky, he had narrowed it down to BC and Kentucky. BC's head coach and two top assistants are all black as was our last Athletic Director.

I shouldn't say our- BC is the one Boston team I don't root for. I'm a UConn guy all the way.

Most top New England players opt for Providence or UConn though-as they should. After that is BC, then it is Harvard/URI then UMass, then Holy Cross/Vermont.
Yes, they did and he is a Long Island guy from Malverne HS/Lakeview, which is NY State's blackest community at 72.5% black and has a MHHI of 146,369.

Anyway, he did have a stipulation and that was he didn't want players that wore cornrows. I only know this, because of this interview with one of his former players that came from Schenectady, who ended up transferring to Purdue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKaJmG0ugNg (starts at 30:46, which you can go to directly. Good interview in general, if interested or have the time)
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Old 08-27-2021, 02:14 PM
 
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Some professional references from the bolded city/area...

https://www.goodlifecny.com/readcnym...good-life-cny/ (Her son actually graduated from Onondaga Central HS and is going to be a freshman at Morgan State this year)

https://www.goodlifecny.com/readcnym...good-life-cny/

https://www.goodlifecny.com/readcnym...good-life-cny/
A show she has on the local PBS affiliate: https://www.wcny.org/behindthewoman/

https://www.goodlifecny.com/readcnym...good-life-cny/
An organization he started in the area: https://gly.foundation/

https://alumni-of-color.syr.edu/when...ee-themselves/
https://www.nationalgridus.com/News/...e-Woman-8217-/ (Her son was a pretty good Basketball player at Bishop Ludden HS)

https://www.georgejlynch.com/

https://www.goodlifecny.com/videos/

https://sayyessyracuse.org/uncategor...-scholarships/
https://sayyessyracuse.org/wp-conten...eport-Card.pdf

Board of Ed: Board of Education | The Syracuse City School District | Syracuse, NY

Police chief: https://www.syracusepolice.org/listing.asp?orgId=83

Fire chief: https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2017/...ire_chief.html

City council: City of Syracuse

Business owners:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIBvN5YlNNE

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMp...0R8BYVw/videos

https://www.innervisionsentertainmen...P7wnP9mWiypt_I
https://www.facebook.com/InnervisionsEntertainment
Also connected to these clothing lines: https://maliabeauteez.com/?fbclid=Iw...3-teFld0-q3vL0
https://www.facebook.com/MaliaBeauteez-107406637718655

https://goodvibesonlygvo.com/?fbclid...WJnnw20L_XAkZs
https://www.facebook.com/Gvoclothing

https://www.dreissigapparel.com/

For those that are interested in volunteering here are some more organizations started by people from the community...

The guy that started this is originally from Chicago: https://www.facebook.com/weriseabove...ryoutreachinc/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-more-...to-help-needy/

https://www.riseabovepovertysyr.org/
https://www.riseabovepovertysyr.org/story

https://www.marynelsonyouthcenter.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNNMuATv2oc

https://www.streetaddictioninc.org/

Some events/the arts: NE Jazz & Wine - Home

https://www.nysbluesfest.com/

https://nysfair.ny.gov/

https://www.syracuse.com/entertainme...-syracuse.html

https://cuse.com/sports/football
https://cuse.com/sports/football/roster
https://cuse.com/sports/football/ros...no-babers/5247

https://cuse.com/sports/mens-basketball
https://cuse.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster

The PRPAC – The Paul Robeson Performing Arts Company Syracuse, New York

https://communityfolkartcenter.org/

Jaleel Campbell – Artist

https://www.londonladd.com/

https://jackiemjoyner.com/ (came to Syracuse as a teen and sometimes does shows in the area)

https://wacheva.com/

https://dancetheaterofsyracuse.com/

CNY Jazz In The City - HOME
SCHEDULE - CNY Jazz In The City

For those that go to church, some of the bigger/more popular ones...

https://bethanybaptistsyrny.org/

https://www.thepeoplesamez.org/

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-L...11535035552980

https://www.smbcsyr.org/

https://www.bmbc219.org/

https://www.facebook.com/syr.vtfc/

Home - Pentecost Evangelical Missionary Baptist Church

https://www.facebook.com/Thewellchurchsyr

https://www.tplcsyracuse.org/ (in East Syracuse)

https://www.abundantlife.church/ (a diverse mega church in East Syracuse, different from the East Side, btw)

There are other faiths as well, including those that aren't mainstream...

Some organizations/clubs: https://www.facebook.com/SyracuseLinksInc/

https://www.facebook.com/jackandjillsyracuse/

https://100blackmensyr.org/

https://www.localsyr.com/hidden-hist...rs-of-service/

https://www.facebook.com/gtgsyracuse/

https://www.cuseculture.com/
Helped start this: https://www.linkedin.com/in/victoria-coit-098236120/
Also connected to this: https://www.facebook.com/people/7EVE...0064312053496/
More:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p70Qw10250&t=17s
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Old 08-27-2021, 10:43 PM
 
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before the Patriots became the most hated, I remember watching this live with my family in the living room lol.

The good ol days! haha I think this video is hilarious, simpler times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha4U9MiTAa8
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Old 08-28-2021, 02:25 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Just to throw a Wilmington area community out there, but New Castle a small city outside of Wilmington has a black MHHI of $69,722, a black poverty rate of 6.3%, a black educational attainment of 25.4% and it is 26.4% black non Hispanic(28.3% inc. black Hispanics and 30.5% inc. those in combo).

Another one is Bear, an area CDP, has a black MHHI of $77,500, a black poverty rate of 8.2%, a black educational attainment of 35.1% and it is 37% black non Hispanic(38.2% inc. black Hispanics and 40.6% inc. those in combo).

Middletown, another New Castle County community, has a black MHHI of $85,328, a black poverty rate of 7.9%, a black educational attainment of 31.5% and it is 26.4% black non Hispanic(27.2% inc. black Hispanics and 29.7% inc. those in combo).

Glasgow, just west of Bear, has a black MHHI of $79, 286, a black poverty rate of 7.3%, a black educational attainment of 36.6% and it is 23.8% black non Hispanic(24.4% inc. black Hispanics and 26.1% inc. those in combo).

New Castle is served primarily by the Colonial SD and partially by the Christina SD. Bear is served by the Appoquinimink, Colonial and Christina SD's. Middletown is served by the Appoquinimink and Colonial SD's. Glasgow is served by the Christina SD primarily, as well as the Appoquinimink SD.

Some information on those SD's, Appoquinimink: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...l-district-de/
https://apposchooldistrict.com/#
https://www.greatschools.org/delawar...hool-district/

Christina: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...l-district-de/
https://www.christinak12.org/
https://www.greatschools.org/delawar...hool-district/

Colonial: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...l-district-de/
Welcome to the Power of We! - Colonial School District Colonial School District
https://www.greatschools.org/delawar...hool-district/

May post more later.
A note on school districts in New Castle County:

The city of Wilmington is actually split among four different suburban school districts: Brandywine, Red Clay, Colonial and Christina.

This was done in the late 1970s as a way to integrate the city's by-then-just-about-all-Black high schools.

Our public radio news and information station, WHYY-FM (its sister TV station is actually licensed to Wilmington but has its main studio in Philadelphia), did an excellent report on the history that led up to this breakup of the Wilmington city school district and efforts to reverse it and bring back the city's three public high schools.
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Old 08-28-2021, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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I dont know the history, would Newark exist if it weren't 15 minutes from Manhattan?
Yup. It was founded by Connecticut Puritans in 1666. Seems those Puritans were always decrying their brethren for not being pure enough, like the dissidents who left Harvard to found Yale:

History of Newark, New Jersey | Wikipedia

Edited to add: Reading it, I learned several things myself: I hadn't realized just what an inventive place Newark was in the 19th century.

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Old 08-28-2021, 11:17 AM
 
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A note on school districts in New Castle County:

The city of Wilmington is actually split among four different suburban school districts: Brandywine, Red Clay, Colonial and Christina.

This was done in the late 1970s as a way to integrate the city's by-then-just-about-all-Black high schools.

Our public radio news and information station, WHYY-FM (its sister TV station is actually licensed to Wilmington but has its main studio in Philadelphia), did an excellent report on the history that led up to this breakup of the Wilmington city school district and efforts to reverse it and bring back the city's three public high schools.
Good article…I thought that the 3 old HS’s would be around, but just within the current multi district set up. It is interesting that Howard, the historically black HS is still around, as in many cases, that is the HS that gets closed or becomes a school for lower grade levels.
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Old 08-28-2021, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Good article…I thought that the 3 old HS’s would be around, but just within the current multi district set up. It is interesting that Howard, the historically black HS is still around, as in many cases, that is the HS that gets closed or becomes a school for lower grade levels.
What I found equally fascinating was that the pride of the city, Wilmington High School, now houses two charter schools whose student bodies consist mainly of affluent white suburbanites: Cab Calloway, a performing-arts charter, and Charter High School of Wilmington.

This was what the Missouri state judge who finally closed the long-running Kansas City (Mo.) School District desegregation suit hoped would happen as a result of his order that the city school district build several lavishly equipped new high schools, for which taxpayers statewide would pay. It was a "Field of Dreams" approach: Build them and they will come.

Except they didn't.

Here, they didn't even have to build a new high school: just close the old one and offer it for use by charters. And kids from Bear to Brandywine Hundred flocked to them. (Bear is a middle-class southern suburb of Wilmington; Brandywine Hundred, a more affluent northern one near the Pennsylvania state line. The presence of the word "Hundred" in a Delaware place name comes from the 18th century and indicates that the community encompassed a territory from which 100 able-bodied men could be assembled to form a militia when needed.)

Another interesting point the article raises: We generally think of opposition to mandatory cross-district school busing as something white folks opposed out of fear, bigotry or racism. But as the article notes, many Black parents were no happier about it than white parents were: what they wanted was a quality education for their kids close to where they lived.
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Old 08-28-2021, 12:33 PM
 
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What I found equally fascinating was that the pride of the city, Wilmington High School, now houses two charter schools whose student bodies consist mainly of affluent white suburbanites: Cab Calloway, a performing-arts charter, and Charter High School of Wilmington.

This was what the Missouri state judge who finally closed the long-running Kansas City (Mo.) School District desegregation suit hoped would happen as a result of his order that the city school district build several lavishly equipped new high schools, for which taxpayers statewide would pay. It was a "Field of Dreams" approach: Build them and they will come.

Except they didn't.

Here, they didn't even have to build a new high school: just close the old one and offer it for use by charters. And kids from Bear to Brandywine Hundred flocked to them. (Bear is a middle-class southern suburb of Wilmington; Brandywine Hundred, a more affluent northern one near the Pennsylvania state line. The presence of the word "Hundred" in a Delaware place name comes from the 18th century and indicates that the community encompassed a territory from which 100 able-bodied men could be assembled to form a militia when needed.)

Another interesting point the article raises: We generally think of opposition to mandatory cross-district school busing as something white folks opposed out of fear, bigotry or racism. But as the article notes, many Black parents were no happier about it than white parents were: what they wanted was a quality education for their kids close to where they lived.
On the that last point, I think the part about black residents opposing busing, as it would likely take their children out to the suburbs, but not reciprocated the other way. Some likely also considered the identity of the community through its schools and could be the reason Howard was spared.

I’m also surprised by the make up of Cab Calloway and the Charter of Wilmington schools. You would think there would be a stipulation of a certain amount of city students within each of the two schools.
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Old 08-30-2021, 09:02 AM
 
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In terms of education, here are some high schools in Upstate NY that are at least 20% black and have graduation rates that are at or above 85%.

Albany: HOME Fall 2020 | Green Tech High (all male)
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000059776
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000059776
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000059776

https://www.albanyleadershiphigh.org/ (all female)
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000068133
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000068133
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000068133

https://bishopmaginn.org/ (private)
https://bishopmaginn.org/about/welcome/
https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00923969

Buffalo: Hutchinson Central Technical High School, Buffalo, NY
https://www.buffaloschools.org/PS304
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000052911
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000052911
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000052911

https://www.buffaloschools.org/PS212
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000052894
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000052894
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000052894

https://www.buffaloschools.org/domain/6860
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000074796
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000074796

https://www.buffaloartsacademy.org/
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000052923
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000052923
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000052923

https://www.buffaloschools.org/ps156
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000052936
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000052936
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000052936

https://buffsci.org/
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000057454
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000057454
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000057454

https://www.healthsciencescharterschool.org/
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000065871
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000065871
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000065871

https://tapestryschool.org/
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000052433
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000052433
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000052433

https://www.wnymcs.com/
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000057456
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000057456
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000057456

Lackawanna: https://www.globalconceptscs.org/
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000052086
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000052086
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000052086

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Just curious, but are there any schools that people can think of in the areas listed or in other areas within the region that fit that bolded criteria? Other schools that meet that criteria in the same portion the state: https://www.city-data.com/forum/61257056-post375.html

Those that come close or fit depending on who you include: https://www.city-data.com/forum/61345376-post391.html
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Old 08-31-2021, 03:14 PM
 
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Some areas of Wilmington...

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...new-castle-de/
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7566...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...new-castle-de/
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7529...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

Adjacent to last block group to the south: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...new-castle-de/
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7514...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

Adjacent to the east: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...new-castle-de/
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7486...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...new-castle-de/
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7642...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...new-castle-de/
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7633...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...new-castle-de/
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7353...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Adjacent to previous block group: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...new-castle-de/
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7347...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

Adjacent to last 2: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...new-castle-de/
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7375...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...new-castle-de/
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7460...2!9m2!1b1!2i37
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