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View Poll Results: Which is impacting its city’s image more?
“Chi-raq” 66 77.65%
Boston racism 19 22.35%
Voters: 85. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-17-2021, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Because this poll is probably mostly white respondents-youre gonna see a fear of black crime outweigh concerns of white on black racism, for them.
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Old 04-17-2021, 04:40 PM
 
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It doesnt. Boston really is no different than any other metro, probably is more equitable than a lot of cities including some big ones that I would never name on this thread because the boosters would get so bent out shape...
Are you sure about that?

According to the analysis below, Greater Boston is the 2nd least racially inclusive metro area in the country despite being the 2nd most prosperous (only Minneapolis-St Paul has a worse disparity)

https://nationalequityatlas.org/research/index-findings

It's not a question of whether every major city/metro has problems with racism. It's a question of which major city/metro is worse. And Boston has earned the reputation of being amongst the worst.
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Old 04-17-2021, 04:41 PM
 
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Yeah I would say it's culturally exclusive and segregated. Not hostile, no. But the segregation isn't welcoming to outsiders who can't find any place that feels like they won't stick out. And I get that

But you can easily argue exclusion and segregation is a form of hostility and id accept that.
I accept your critique here. "Hostile" wasn't the right word.
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Old 04-17-2021, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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I'd say the "Chiraq" moniker, just by how people move with their feet. Boston at least has experienced a consistent decade-span population growth since the 1980s.
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Old 04-17-2021, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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No way is Boston as equitable as other cities-no.

It's a cool city for the local culture and history what does exist in the neighborhoods, it's attractive, important and functional but inclusive and equitable? that is far far from the reality. It's just the floor for bad QOL in Boston is higher than most (not all) cities. It's onto in the last 5-10 years that the economy has begun to trickle down to black people in substantive ways. Doesn't seem to be helping latinos though. Massachusetts is the worst state in the country for Latinos a lot with RI and CT right behind.
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Old 04-17-2021, 04:54 PM
 
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Because this poll is probably mostly white respondents-youre gonna see a fear of black crime outweigh concerns of white on black racism, for them.
Yep. Sampling bias (and arguably a casual form of racism in itself).
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Old 04-17-2021, 04:55 PM
 
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I accept your critique here. "Hostile" wasn't the right word.
Segregated I can see. Current mayor will hopefully turn the image around. Don’t know I’d call a city that speaks 140 languages culturally hostile.
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Old 04-17-2021, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Are you sure about that?

According to the analysis below, Greater Boston is the 2nd least racially inclusive metro area in the country despite being the 2nd most prosperous (only Minneapolis-St Paul has a worse disparity)

https://nationalequityatlas.org/research/index-findings

It's not a question of whether every major city/metro has problems with racism. It's a question of which major city/metro is worse. And Boston has earned the reputation of being amongst the worst.
That study also showed Boston had a racial equity score of about 64. In comparison, NYC was about 50, Miami 48, Tampa 62, Chicago 57 and Atlanta 56. Which is what I was referring to.

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Old 04-17-2021, 05:04 PM
 
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Yeah I would say it's culturally exclusive and segregated. Not hostile, no. But the segregation isn't welcoming to outsiders who can't find any place that feels like they won't stick out. And I get that

But you can easily argue exclusion and segregation is a form of hostility and id accept that.
I’ve been y to o Chicago multiple times and love the city I’ve been all over. West, north, south. Unfortunately Chicago is also pretty segregated. Would you say Chicago’s segregation is less so than Boston’s ?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/247wall...n-america/amp/
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Old 04-17-2021, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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I’ve been y to o Chicago multiple times and love the city. Would you say Chicago’s segregation is less so than Boston’s ?
Chicago's segregation is probably top 5 with Detroit, NY, Memphis, Milwaukee, etc. I definitely noticed how bad it was househunting there.

The city is in a grid pattern and if you cross the street you go from tracts of 99% Black to 90% White. Chicago's segregation is a lot worse because the city is much larger and outside the North Side to Rogers Park.. there really is very little, if any, integration. Chicago's race map is like streaks of racial groups.

Is Chicago doing anything to fix this? Like you can make out Damen Ave here. THere is very few racially diverse areas outside the North Side. Bostons minority population is too small to compare to Chicago's where you literally can go in a straight line from White community, to black, to hispanic, to black, to white.

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