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Old 04-18-2021, 02:54 AM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Looks like "car centric" San Diego is creeping towards the top spot in the nation ahead of a massive expansion later this year and emerging as a true LRT leader:


https://www.apta.com/wp-content/uplo...rship-APTA.pdf

San Francisco left in the dust and Denver getting lapped here by the SD Trolley.
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Old 04-18-2021, 04:33 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Looks like "car centric" San Diego is creeping towards the top spot in the nation ahead of a massive expansion later this year and emerging as a true LRT leader:


https://www.apta.com/wp-content/uplo...rship-APTA.pdf

San Francisco left in the dust and Denver getting lapped here by the SD Trolley.
I also note that the only city in the report where average weekday light rail ridership tops San Diego's is Los Angeles.
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Old 04-18-2021, 08:36 AM
 
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Pretty interesting list.

Seattle was a beast pre-covid for its size.

Unless I’m missing something, in total summed up ridership numbers, its bus / trolley / LRT / commuter rail overtook Atlanta’s HRT, streetcar, and bus by almost 40,000 units in 2019. Pretty insane for a city that doesn’t have HRT and only a LRT connection to the airport.
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Old 04-18-2021, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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It looks like SF shut down their light rail for the quarter.
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Old 04-18-2021, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Pretty interesting list.

Seattle was a beast pre-covid for its size.

Unless I’m missing something, in total summed up ridership numbers, its bus / trolley / LRT / commuter rail overtook Atlanta’s HRT, streetcar, and bus by almost 40,000 units in 2019. Pretty insane for a city that doesn’t have HRT and only a LRT connection to the airport.
I think that has everything to do with public acceptance of riding a bus in the PNW versus the sunbelt. Plus the buses in Seattle are really good.
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Man transit took a hit from covid. DC is at 104k avg weekday.
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Old 04-18-2021, 10:29 AM
 
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I think that has everything to do with public acceptance of riding a bus in the PNW versus the sunbelt. Plus the buses in Seattle are really good.
Yea I’ve noticed that. I used to live up there and people were a lot more willing to use transit over driving.
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Old 04-18-2021, 11:20 AM
 
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Let's reign in the bragging for a second. There are very specific reasons that this are happening.
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Looks like "car centric" San Diego is creeping towards the top spot in the nation ahead of a massive expansion later this year and emerging as a true LRT leader:
https://www.apta.com/wp-content/uplo...rship-APTA.pdf

San Francisco left in the dust and Denver getting lapped here by the SD Trolley.
Despite what most San Diegans (and outsiders) think, the Trolley is critical to mobility in our region and is widely used. The continued use during the pandemic--pushing SD to #2--is simply a result of the demographics of trolley ridership. The service is critical to households that do not have cars and serves many lower-income areas by providing links to major job centers. Tourists/outsiders incorrectly assume SD's light rail is useless, but it provides mobility to the people who need it most...people without other options. That includes the people who do not have the option to telework during a pandemic. That's why ridership hasn't dipped as much relative to these other cities.

So why does this matter? Well, post-COVID this means that SD's light rail ridership will stay relatively strong and hopefully have a faster recovery. It also bodes well for the Mid-Coast trolley extension opening at the end of the year. SD's trolley could very well remain near the top for the long term (it's already #4-5 in ridership).

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Old 04-18-2021, 11:45 AM
 
Location: La Jolla
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It looks like SF shut down their light rail for the quarter.
I don't know, they still tallied 12 million trips. They might not have data some metrics.
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Old 04-18-2021, 01:06 PM
 
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According to that list for HRT Atlanta's MARTA is slightly above SF's BART, so woo-hoo for Atlanta, lol.
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