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Both states could use less people. Go fo California lol
I'd have to disagree. CO would be better if it had mountain small cities instead of just mountain towns. Like if Westcliffe had a grocery store, that would be better. The Front Range and the Puget Sound are both full, but there's more options than those spots.
Denver and Seattle illicit polarizing opinions. Colorado is a good state despite Denver, not because of it (IMO ). Most of the state is still "unspoiled" if you will.
I've never been to Colorado, but I think I prefer WA since Colorado doesn't seem to have any major water features, it's got a few small lakes and rivers but they don't compare to what WA offers. Also WA population distribution I think is better.
State: Population | State: Population
Washington: 7,705,281 | Colorado: 5,773,714
Metro: Population (% of State) Distance from Seattle (Time) | Metro: Population (% of State) Distance from Denver (Time)
1. Seattle: 3,979,845 (51.65%) 0 mi | Denver: 2,967,239 (51.39%) 0 mi
It’s funny I was just thinking about this today. My thought process was how much more I enjoy consistency in weather than extreme changes. So, Washington.
Just for the record the above mentioned Kennewick total is the entire TriCities region, not just Kennewick.
They are indeed a couple of great states.... I'd choose WA because I don't like cold winters.
On a typical January day in Denver, I go out for lunch wearing a down vest over an Oxford shirt and I have to wear sunglasses. I’m in Vancouver BC more than Seattle but it’s the same climate. I’m wearing a Gore Tex shell with the hood popped and it’s drizzling. Personally, I’d rather scrape the ice off the windshield in the morning and have 50F & sunny at noon. The lack of winter sunlight in Seattle would probably trigger SADS unless I surrounded myself with broad spectrum lighting.
The Phoenix MSA is 5 million in population, and is notably higher than this in snowbird season (an extra 500k+ is added during snowbird season, which is the population of Arizona's second largest municipality of Mesa).
Seattle MSA is about 4 million
Denver MSA is 3 million
To be honest I was wrong but also yourself. I assumed Seattle was identical to Phoenix in size at 5 mil then actually being that much smaller, and I thought Denver was at 2.5. My assumption was generally rooted in the fact that Washington has one more electoral vote than Arizona and that Spokane was probably the extra vote over Tucson as AZ is highly concentrated to the Phoenix MSA for population. I generally viewed Seattle and Phoenix as comparable cities population wise, but clearly Phoenix is much larger than Seattle than I thought. It must mean Washington's secondary cities are much stronger than Arizona's, which is probably right.
If Denver and Seattle are "identical" in size then my home city of Phoenix is not identical in size to Seattle, we cannot have these large million+ gaps to identical cities. Phoenix is closer to double Denver, especially for half the year when we deal with snowbirds. And again, I assumed Phoenix and Seattle were comparable but that can't be right if Seattle is comparable to Denver at again, almost half of Phoenix.
These figures are of course based on Wikipedia's 2019 estimates. If you can find MSA populations from the 2020 census I would like to see it, but I can't find it online.
If you compare the Seattle CSA to the Front Range (excluding Pueblo and Cheyenne) you get about the same amount of people.
Ft. Collins is as far away as Bremerton and Mt Vernon. Silverdale is further away from Seattle than Colorado Springs is to Denver. So if you look at the general population of both immediate areas, it's much closer in size. Adding Ft. Collins and Colorado Springs metro areas is another 1.1-1.5 million people added to about 4+ million people already in the CSA.
I know that's not how this works but it's a far more honest explanation than Seattle being significantly larger than Denver.
If you compare the Seattle CSA to the Front Range (excluding Pueblo and Cheyenne) you get about the same amount of people.
Ft. Collins is as far away as Bremerton and Mt Vernon. Silverdale is further away from Seattle than Colorado Springs is to Denver. So if you look at the general population of both immediate areas, it's much closer in size. Adding Ft. Collins and Colorado Springs metro areas is another 1.1-1.5 million people added to about 4+ million people already in the CSA.
I fail to see how that's a good thing. Outside of DIA and the sports teams, there isn't a whole lot of synergy between COS and Denver or Ft. Collins and Greeley. It does mean more people funnling up I 70 though...
I fail to see how that's a good thing. Outside of DIA and the sports teams, there isn't a whole lot of synergy between COS and Denver or Ft. Collins and Greeley. It does mean more people funnling up I 70 though...
I never said it was good.
There's tons of people who live in Greeley, Ft. Collins, and the Springs who work here in a Denver. Or who have family here. People even live in Cheyenne and drive into Denver for work. The northern suburbs have tons of commuters between themselves as they are more connected than the Springs. Whenever RTD is able to build the passenger rail network it'll be even better.
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). Most of the state is still "unspoiled" if you will.
