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Old 06-02-2021, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
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Based on the criteria I’d go with NoVa. It’s hard to ignore that it’s part of a much larger, international and diverse area than the other options.

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Agree. That was a really odd/weird statement. I've never heard anyone refer to Denver as being Midwestern.
People want Denver to be the Midwest so badly and idk why that is.

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Old 06-02-2021, 02:50 PM
 
Location: OC
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Based on the criteria I’d go with NoVa. It’s hard to ignore that it’s part of a much larger, international and diverse area than the other options.



People want Denver to be the Midwest so badly and idk why that is.
Denver is regarded as pretty cool and I think a lot of midwesterners want that association. This happens in a lot of different situations. Some Atlantans here believe Atlanta is the east coast. It's not. A lot of posters here state that DC is in the south. It's that association that's coveted, sometimes to raise your region's profile but often times to denigrate the referenced city as well.
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Old 06-02-2021, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Beautiful and sanitary DC
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Haha, I see I've angered a mob of toponym pedantics. What I should've said is that it's a middle-American city, indisputably sitting upon the Great Plains, 1,000 miles from the ocean. (To my Eastern eyes, the Great Plains are just as Midwestern as the Great Lakes.) And I'm not the only one to call Colorado part of the Midwest; my college roommate (from Denver's eastern exurbs) did, and so did these people:
https://www.city-data.com/forum/colo...at-plains.html
https://www.vox.com/2016/2/16/10889440/midwest-analysis

Just as with the beach and coastal cities, the humdrum reality of metro Denver is that most people have to drive a while to get into the mountains. Plenty of Eastern metros, from DC up through NYC, abut the Appalachian mountains, but nobody is sitting at their computer in Dubai thinking of them as exciting "mountain" cities.
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Old 06-03-2021, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Haha, I see I've angered a mob of toponym pedantics. What I should've said is that it's a middle-American city, indisputably sitting upon the Great Plains, 1,000 miles from the ocean. (To my Eastern eyes, the Great Plains are just as Midwestern as the Great Lakes.) And I'm not the only one to call Colorado part of the Midwest; my college roommate (from Denver's eastern exurbs) did, and so did these people:
https://www.city-data.com/forum/colo...at-plains.html
https://www.vox.com/2016/2/16/10889440/midwest-analysis

Just as with the beach and coastal cities, the humdrum reality of metro Denver is that most people have to drive a while to get into the mountains. Plenty of Eastern metros, from DC up through NYC, abut the Appalachian mountains, but nobody is sitting at their computer in Dubai thinking of them as exciting "mountain" cities.
Denver is at the edge of the plains. Abutting the mountains.
Plenty of people get things wrong every day.

Most people have to drive a while to get anywhere in their city, whether or not its mountains, downtown, the stadium, or the airport.
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Old 06-03-2021, 03:47 PM
 
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People want Denver to be the Midwest so badly and idk why that is.
I guarantee you the vast majority of people don't care; they see it being a city out in the middle of nowhere.

On this site, there seem to be just as many people wanting Denver to be a West Coast city as there are those who claim it's Midwest.

Anyway, NoVA over Raleigh (boring) and Denver (overpriced and overrated).
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Old 06-03-2021, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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I guarantee you the vast majority of people don't care; they see it being a city out in the middle of nowhere.

On this site, there seem to be just as many people wanting Denver to be a West Coast city as there are those who claim it's Midwest.

Anyway, NoVA over Raleigh (boring) and Denver (overpriced and overrated).
The notion that people want a place to be something is really wierd. It's probably many other things that make people equate Denver to west coast cities.
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Old 06-03-2021, 05:07 PM
 
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I'd say it's a mix of one Boise (4x the size), one Seattle, and one Kansas City.


Its closest peer might be MSP.
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Old 06-03-2021, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
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Denver is regarded as pretty cool and I think a lot of midwesterners want that association. This happens in a lot of different situations. Some Atlantans here believe Atlanta is the east coast. It's not. A lot of posters here state that DC is in the south. It's that association that's coveted, sometimes to raise your region's profile but often times to denigrate the referenced city as well.
This makes sense. Still don’t know why that would be since the Midwest has some pretty cool places in it’s own right.

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I guarantee you the vast majority of people don't care; they see it being a city out in the middle of nowhere.

On this site, there seem to be just as many people wanting Denver to be a West Coast city as there are those who claim it's Midwest.

Anyway, NoVA over Raleigh (boring) and Denver (overpriced and overrated).
Well anyone who thinks it’s the West Coast is just as wrong as those who think it’s the Midwest lol. And clearly being in the middle of nowhere only really helped Denver so I don’t see how that could be a negative honestly.
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Old 06-03-2021, 05:55 PM
 
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Denver is regarded as pretty cool and I think a lot of midwesterners want that association. This happens in a lot of different situations. Some Atlantans here believe Atlanta is the east coast. It's not. A lot of posters here state that DC is in the south. It's that association that's coveted, sometimes to raise your region's profile but often times to denigrate the referenced city as well.
East Coast states are those along the Atlantic coast. The two close calls are Vermont, which gets in due to location, and Pennsylvania which has access to the Atlantic Ocean and Philly’s other ties to the region. East Coast cities, broadly, are cities in East Coast states. Pittsburgh is probably a judgment call for most people. Atlanta is not.
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Old 06-03-2021, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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I'd say it's a mix of one Boise (4x the size), one Seattle, and one Kansas City.


Its closest peer might be MSP.
I haven't been to Minneapolis but Seattle and Denver seem like twins to me.
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