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Old 05-12-2024, 08:13 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Originally Posted by Joakim3 View Post
Off the top of my head NYC, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, LA, Miami are the only current cities with multiple skylines.

DC & Boston are just as polycentric but lack high-rises/skyscrapers in certain cores of the above cities.

Philly is currently building is second skyline at Schuylkill Yards, while Baltimore is just breaking ground on Port Covington which will contain multiple +100m buildings


I think the elephant in the room is what qualifies as a separate downtown?
For DC obviously the city core doesn't come into the conversation in terms of skyscrapers, but there are multiple "tall skylines" away from downtown, and you can see some from the city core.

The DC area has added high rises in more separate nodes of it's metro than any US metro area not named NYC or Miami the past decade.
https://postimg.cc/NLLZPbzQ

DC suburban skylines with multiple buildings above 300' (key word multiple):

Rosslyn (multiple 350+)
Tysons (multiple above 400')
Reston (multiple above 400')
Crystal City
Pentagon City
Alexandria
DT Bethesda
DT Silver Spring (one stands, two under construction)

There is definitely a difference between "high rise district", and an actual downtown. I would say it's 2 downtowns for city proper DC with DT and Navy Yard/Capital Riverfront, but those are within the height limits. For outside the city, Rosslyn is legit a secondary downtown, if we're calling DT Brooklyn a downtown. After that it's CC/Pentagon city that run somewhere in between actual downtown, and/or just an urbanized TOD zone. I'll concede they need some more cohesion to actually be "downtowns", but are strongly walkable and strong amenity nodes. Tysons is a huge edge city with the tallest buildings, but I would not call it a "downtown".

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Old 05-12-2024, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Nashville has three:

1. Downtown including North and South Gulch
2. Midtown + Music Row + West End + Vandy
3. East Bank + River North

https://citynownext.com/2023/02/28/4...own-nashville/

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashvill...le-crane-watch

This list is not exhaustive. I think the St. Regis and a few Beaman development towers were left out of this list. Hopefully Mayor O' Connell's transit plan will be approved to provide much needed pedestrian/cyclist connectivity to these neighborhoods. BRT is also in the works.
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Old 05-12-2024, 11:20 AM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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Also in the St. Louis example. Part of the reason Clayton is outside city limits is due to a city/county divorce in the 1870's, otherwise Clayton would certinly be in the city now. Clayton does function as a 2nd CBD and not a edge city pattern due to some unique issues in the region.

Also are some of these pictures something else if the high-rises are not offices but residental structures? In St. Louis the two high-rise areas between Downtown St. Louis and Clayton (Midtown and CWE) are mainly residental buildings.
I would argue these days that Clayton has a more vibrant downtown than what I consider the center of St. Louis to be, namely 4th St to Tucker Blvd, and Clark St to Washington St.
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Old 05-12-2024, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Nashville has three:

1. Downtown including North and South Gulch
2. Midtown + Music Row + West End + Vandy
3. East Bank + River North

https://citynownext.com/2023/02/28/4...own-nashville/

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashvill...le-crane-watch

This list is not exhaustive. I think the St. Regis and a few Beaman development towers were left out of this list. Hopefully Mayor O' Connell's transit plan will be approved to provide much needed pedestrian/cyclist connectivity to these neighborhoods. BRT is also in the works.
High-rise "node" sure, but a separate Downtown/CBD? Nah. Outside of mega cities like NYC or LA, separate downtowns in lesser cities are almost exclusively "edge cities" that are often their own municipalities with their own defined business/entertainment cores largely separated from the central core of their principle city.

Think

DC
Silver Spring
Arlington
Bethesda

Seattle
Bellevue

Baltimore
Towson

St. Louis
Clayton

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Old 05-13-2024, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Land of Ill Noise
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Originally Posted by Joakim3 View Post
High-rise "node" sure, but a separate Downtown/CBD? Nah. Outside of mega cities like NYC or LA, separate downtowns in lesser cities are almost exclusively "edge cities" that are often their own municipalities with their own defined business/entertainment cores largely separated from the central core of their principle city.

Think

DC
Silver Spring
Arlington
Bethesda

Seattle
Bellevue

Baltimore
Towson

St. Louis
Clayton
Evanston, IL also says hello, for this thread.
https://chicagoracoons.com/wp-conten...vanston-IL.jpg
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Old 05-13-2024, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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Originally Posted by Shakeesha View Post
Nashville has three:

1. Downtown including North and South Gulch
2. Midtown + Music Row + West End + Vandy
3. East Bank + River North

https://citynownext.com/2023/02/28/4...own-nashville/

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashvill...le-crane-watch

This list is not exhaustive. I think the St. Regis and a few Beaman development towers were left out of this list. Hopefully Mayor O' Connell's transit plan will be approved to provide much needed pedestrian/cyclist connectivity to these neighborhoods. BRT is also in the works.
Well that's quite the reach. If that's the case, pretty much every city has "multiple downtowns."
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Old 05-13-2024, 01:39 PM
 
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Nashville's appear to be extensions of Downtown. And isn't the East Bank a construction/upcoming thing, as I'm seeing basically nothing on Google Maps?

Seattle's #3 (or #2 ahead of Bellevue in some ways) would be the University District. It's pretty dense with residential including five new towers just completed (shown) and has lately been adding office buildings (three in the 9-12-story range topped out but barely underway in the image). https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6583...!1e3?entry=ttu

Downtown Bellevue isn't bad. Several towers are nearing completion that aren't shown here, including its second 600' office tower. https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6137...!1e3?entry=ttu
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Old 05-13-2024, 09:22 PM
 
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Ithaca, NY - legally a city so I'll throw it in.

The Collegetown area abutting the Cornell University campus has more of a skyline than the Ithaca Commons area on the bottom of the hill.
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For Syracuse, you could go with the standard Downtown/CBD: Downtown Committee of Syracuse
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0486...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0445...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

Armory Square | Downtown Syracuse, New York
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0480...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

https://www.hanoversq.co/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0504...7i13312!8i6656


Or University Hill: https://university-hill.com/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0421...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0426...7i13312!8i6656

https://crousemarshall.com/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0416...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

http://university-hill.com/wp-conten...chure-2018.pdf
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0469...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

Downtown is west of the highway(I-81) and University Hill is to the right: syracuse.jpg (image)


An even smaller city that comes to mind is Ithaca, Downtown: https://www.downtownithaca.com/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4396...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

Collegetown: https://www.visitithaca.com/attractions/collegetown
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4416...6!9m2!1b1!2i38
Just curious, but I'm wondering if Ithaca is the smallest city to actually meet the criteria with just under 33,000 people within city limits.

Also, here is a more recent street view of its Downtown, which has seen quite a bit of development in recent years: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4396...2i38?entry=ttu
location within the city: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Do...7hjy?entry=ttu

A more recent view of Collegetown: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4416...2i38?entry=ttu
location within the city: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Co...5s8b?entry=ttu
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Old 05-14-2024, 01:53 AM
 
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Palo Alto, California
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Old 05-14-2024, 02:14 AM
 
Location: West Seattle
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Palo Alto, California
For another suburb, Kirkland, WA kinda has three (Central + Lake, Juanita, Totem Lake)
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