Large metro (4M+) with least established hip hop scenes? (largest, schools, California)
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You know if Full Clip and Mass Appeal was shot in Boston???
Both could have been there's not enough to determine in those videos if they're shot in Boston or NYC. I think Full Clip was shot in both. I think I see the NYC skyline and then saw a building with a street sign in front of it saying Hammond Street that does look like one on Boston Hammond street (in Roxbury/South End).
Mass Appeal looks ibit more like it shot in Boston due to a particularly liquor store.
One video that was shot in Boston was the Steelo by 702. Although the group is from Las Vegas, they were discovered by Michael Bivins and he shot their debut video at the Biv10 (now Biv20k) tournament in Roxbury. The first 30 seconds of the video detail that much
Baltimore Minneapolis Buffalo and KC are not more developed than Dallas or Boston. You’re forgetting DC.
I know Griselda exists but that one group.
Minneapolis and KC haven't put out one hip-hop artist of note ever. Lizzo is periphery. Baltimore? Im in Baltimore-naw.
Tech Nine from KC
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Originally Posted by NigerianNightmare
I’m not arguing Houston doesn’t have young rappers. I’m saying that is something DFW excels at especially when compared to Houston. I look for young Texas rappers, and it’s something the state struggles with as a whole. Compared to similar states like New York, Cali and Florida, Texas is outright behind overall in numeric number of popping young rappers and when you bring up unique and popping it’s a chasm. I personally know rappers from Houston in that age range, non of them are what we would call popping. In terms of just views or streams, Dallas has several more popular 16-22 year olds than Houston. Also like I said Houston is less on that Texas Rap wave, which Dallas and Central Texas has been molding for years. Houston is definitely a city of Oldheads, like 90% of Houston centric songs that make the playlist are folks 30+. I can’t think of a Houston banger in the last 5-10 years made by someone not named Megan or Travis under the age of 26-27. Don Tolliver who is from Houston doesn’t even make city-focused music. I’m not the biggest fan so if he is dropping names in his albums/EPs I wouldn’t know.
You say these rappers exist, but that doesn’t defeat my point if they don’t have a buzz or make Atlanta-Trap-esque music with no Houston influences. Imma need names, because I personally look for young musicians to support in the city, and I don’t see these large groups of musicians who are overshadowed by Megan and Travis.
I just don't think you're checking for them because they're from Houston. This is one weird thing I picked up about millennial and gen Z Houstonian's. They don't really support their local scene till mainstream accepts them. It's weird because the "OLDHEADS" use to support nothing but Houston artist. That's how Houston became so popular was due to that strong local support.
Now I guess I'd be consider an old head but I know my brother is in your age range. And Houston is not how it once was but it's still a lot of very popular artist out of Houston that appeal to a young age range.
Plus there's always just as many Houston artist as their are DFW rappers on Saycheesetv top 20 Texas hip hop artist list. I mean my brother and his friends favorite Texas group at the moment is The Sauce Factory. Not my personal favorite but they garner a lot of attention outside of Houston
Houston just has the more successful well-round hip-hop scene. They also have the bigger artist out the state. But if Houston didn't have any young artist popping out the city why would Rolling Stone do a whole cover on the Houston hip-hop/R&B scene?
Also as far as regional sound, that barely exist anymore. Everybody sound like everybody with the exception of regions like Detroit and the Bay Area. This aint the 90's/early 00's where you could tell who was from who. The only thing regional about these artist now is the accents and slang they use.
^yeah I just found out TechN9ne was from KC in this thread. but yea anyplace with one single artist cant be ranked above Dallas or Boston that both have multiple artists.
I wouldn't say "everybody sounds like everybody" but distinctions are not as distinct anymore. No way you'd confuse a Toronto rapper for one from Baton Rouge. The content in some cities is different, at the very least the delivery is.
Now if that fades in 10 years I wouldn't be surprised.
No offense but I really really hope that Tacoma has something better than this cuz this ain’t it at all naw...
You're totally right - that was a terrible example of Tacoma rap. Here are some better ones in my opinion. If you don't like these then you don't like what Tacoma has going on. Tacoma is an example of a good local scene for town of 200K. Not as many rappers from Tacoma have gotten attention on the national level as Seattle though.
^yea that's about what id expect from 200k city. Bruce LeRoy was good, I really enjoyed that.
These guys from Brockton MA put out some damn good music, very high quality, maybe you've heard of Van Buren Records? Meet Massachusetts’ Chaotic Rap Collective. I appreciate the fact that they assemble coherent albums and dont chase any popular sound.
^yea that's about what id expect from 200k city. Bruce LeRoy was good, I really enjoyed that.
These guys from Brockton MA put out some damn good music, very high quality, maybe you've heard of Van Buren Records? Meet Massachusetts’ Chaotic Rap Collective. I appreciate the fact that they assemble coherent albums and dont chase any popular sound.
I just don't think you're checking for them because they're from Houston. This is one weird thing I picked up about millennial and gen Z Houstonian's. They don't really support their local scene till mainstream accepts them. It's weird because the "OLDHEADS" use to support nothing but Houston artist. That's how Houston became so popular was due to that strong local support.
Now I guess I'd be consider an old head but I know my brother is in your age range. And Houston is not how it once was but it's still a lot of very popular artist out of Houston that appeal to a young age range.
Plus there's always just as many Houston artist as their are DFW rappers on Saycheesetv top 20 Texas hip hop artist list. I mean my brother and his friends favorite Texas group at the moment is The Sauce Factory. Not my personal favorite but they garner a lot of attention outside of Houston
Houston just has the more successful well-round hip-hop scene. They also have the bigger artist out the state. But if Houston didn't have any young artist popping out the city why would Rolling Stone do a whole cover on the Houston hip-hop/R&B scene?
Also as far as regional sound, that barely exist anymore. Everybody sound like everybody with the exception of regions like Detroit and the Bay Area. This aint the 90's/early 00's where you could tell who was from who. The only thing regional about these artist now is the accents and slang they use.
I second this. Also, why would NICKELODEON be doing a tv show based on a Houston rapper.
I usually agree with Nigerian Nightmare but this was an odd take. Especially the part of Don Toliver. Toliver’s album cover is more Houston centric than any album cover I’ve ever seen. And he’s always mentioning local restaurants and lyrics like “in the H bumpin screw” etc. he did say he “wouldn’t know since he’s not a fan” but thats what he should’ve left it at.
The only rapper from Houston that completely excludes Houston centric themes is Lizzo, but her interviews make up for it. She even did that dance in front of Shipley Donuts. I’m not even mad at her. It’s ok to step out.
Never heard of these guys but that is pretty good stuff. Definitely a unique sound and style.
unfortunately, the only stuff young people in Boston/MA support is either extremely violent and openly gang-affiliated music... or its already kind of "on" or cosigned.
It's especially hard for these guys to blow coming out Brockton 25 miles south of Boston with a population of 95,000. Luckily their talent has been enough to turn a few heads out of state. But these guys get out viewed by Boston Drill like 200k to 5k.
But for the most part, most popular rap songs in MA are made by well-known members of large, well-known gangs ranging from the Latin Kings to Boston's bigger gangs. Just chock full of gang insignia and the like. It's 100% radioactive stuff that won't get any major label to trek up to Boston-knowing full well you're on your way to fed time. That being said a lot of it is surprisingly good in terms of lyrics and production.
It's different than most drill or trap music in that it focuses on specific local gangs and crimes that really happened, it flaunts gang symbols etc through those videos and makes very little reference to clubbing/money chains. The focus is really just violence. They use it to gain local clout and it doesn't appear they want to be industry artists.
^This fact and Benzino's "tax" ('let us perform as your opening act or we will fight you/shoot you and ban you from Boston') on visiting artists into Bosotn completely shut us ut of rap from 2005-2015.
A number of festivals and artists have opened the door since 2015, and so you have some more artistic folks like Van Buren emerging from the darkness.
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