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View Poll Results: MD vs PA
MD 17 44.74%
PA 21 55.26%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-10-2021, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Mount Pleasant
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1) What do you like/dislike about these two states and why?

2) What are the most liberal/moderate (non-conservative) counties in these states?

3) Which of these states has the nicest suburbs within an hour of Baltimore and an hour of Philly?

4) Which of these states has better public transit?

5) Which of these states has better winter weather - in the Baltimore/DC metro and Philly metro - Sun, Snow, Ice, Cold (I don't care if they have hot and humid weather in the summer).

6) Which state has a better COL?

7) Which state has a better QOL?

8) Which state is better run? (Modertate but progressive govt)?

9) Which state has access to better airports?

10) Why do people always seem to trash MD? Is it because of Baltimore?

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Old 08-10-2021, 09:47 AM
 
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So-called "progressive" states/cities/metro areas have the highest costs of living, worst buying power, most crime, lowest home ownership rates, most overreaching governments, highest homelessness rates, most rioting/looting/violence/social unrest, etc. Stats and data prove this as an inarguable fact. All of those aspects destroys the quality of life in any area. That's far from the definition of progressive in its literal sense. PA wins this.
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Old 08-12-2021, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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So-called "progressive" states/cities/metro areas have the highest costs of living, worst buying power, most crime, lowest home ownership rates, most overreaching governments, highest homelessness rates, most rioting/looting/violence/social unrest, etc. Stats and data prove this as an inarguable fact. All of those aspects destroys the quality of life in any area. That's far from the definition of progressive in its literal sense. PA wins this.
Well that's not remotely true....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ent_crime_rate

Stop relying on Facebook memes and right wing cable news for your "information".
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Old 08-12-2021, 09:23 PM
 
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So-called "progressive" states/cities/metro areas have the highest costs of living, worst buying power, most crime, lowest home ownership rates, most overreaching governments, highest homelessness rates, most rioting/looting/violence/social unrest, etc. Stats and data prove this as an inarguable fact. All of those aspects destroys the quality of life in any area. That's far from the definition of progressive in its literal sense. PA wins this.
The wealthiest / highest income states lean democrat or moderate. So yes, the most expensive states are generally Democrat or moderate. That's pretty much the equation. Now, a real argument can be made for why that is. I'd point to avg. educational attainment in the wealthiest states, and educational attainment being an indicator of progressivism more than i'd associate the wealth to policy. But, that's not the debate at hand.

As for crime, that's.. Well, that just incorrect. From the Census:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ent_crime_rate

Can you maybe explain your position in more detail? I understand gun control has not curbed gun violence. Is that more what you mean by violence and crime?
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Old 08-12-2021, 11:29 PM
 
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Maryland.
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Old 08-13-2021, 12:18 AM
 
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Both are good options... except the winters are too cold to someone accustomed to CA weather.
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