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Old 10-25-2021, 02:16 PM
 
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These polls change yearly and we know neighborhoods do not just go cold after a year from hot to cold. Do they have list of world's hotest neighborhoods as a multiple choice? How can 10s of thousands even begin to just randomly have many choose them and we do not know how many vires each got. What the link says for this years.

We polled 27,000 city-dwellers and asked local experts to rank the greatest places for food, fun, culture and community. Last year it was 38,000 voters. Downtown LA was #2.

It is a magazine basically. Just as Travel and Leisure comes out with their hot cities list yearly and it changes. If your city and a neighborhood makes a years list. Enjoy it for a year. Clearly, this is not a stats list and if your city even has one neighborhood on a yearly list in the top 20. It is doing good given the thousands of hot neighborhoods among world cities.
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Old 10-25-2021, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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What about the Abbot Kinney Boulevard / Venice area?

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I don’t think that I would know, but I hear more about Highland Park, Echo Park, Los Feliz, NoHo, and the Arts District.
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Old 10-25-2021, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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What about the Abbot Kinney Boulevard / Venice area?
I guess those are always cool. I know that they’re getting more upscale and trendy too.
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Old 10-25-2021, 03:01 PM
 
Location: West Seattle
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Yeah, I'm not sure what it is about Andersonville that makes it cooler than some other north and west side neighborhoods. Certainly has seen its fair amount of change post-recession, with some great restaurants and bars opening along N. Clark. Some antique furniture shops, boutiques, cafes to note, along with Chicago Music Lounge. But again, nothing that you can't find in Wicker, Bucktown, Logan Sq.

I suppose the Swedish heritage component probably plays nicely, as it's not that common to see Swedish-American neighborhoods. It's also very LGBTQ+ friendly. I could certainly see how that plays into the cool moniker.
Yeah, I was assuming the uniqueness of being a Swedish enclave was what got it up there. It's also fairly uncommon for an LGBTQ+ hotspot to be specifically a lesbian hotspot.

That said, I'm not that familiar with NYC or Boston so I'm not sure what makes Chelsea or Central Square stand out within those cities.
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Old 10-25-2021, 03:38 PM
 
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Yeah, I was assuming the uniqueness of being a Swedish enclave was what got it up there. It's also fairly uncommon for an LGBTQ+ hotspot to be specifically a lesbian hotspot.

That said, I'm not that familiar with NYC or Boston so I'm not sure what makes Chelsea or Central Square stand out within those cities.
Chelsea has the High Line, Chelsea Market, Chelsea Piers, and dozens of art galleries. It's probably seen more investment than any Manhattan residential neighborhood.

But I don't know a single New Yorker that would consider Chelsea "cooler" than a Lower East Side, Greenpoint or Williamsburg. The latter pairing being eclectic, gritty, modern, free spirited, and the former being a fairly typical West Side neighborhood.

As for Central Square... I posted my two cents in a previous post. Though there is a fair amount of new building and development, it's maintained a lot of its look and feel from decades past. Coffee culture meets brewery scene meets higher education (sits directly between Harvard and MIT) meets starving artist. Still not a ton to do or see, but I do think it's probably the mecca of cool neighborhoods in 2021 for the Boston area. Great place to eat and drink and listen to music, no doubt.

You'll notice the contrast from street to street below. Kind of wild:

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Old 10-25-2021, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Chi 'burbs=>Tucson=>Naperville=>Chicago
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Yeah, I'm not sure what it is about Andersonville that makes it cooler than some other north and west side neighborhoods. Certainly has seen its fair amount of change post-recession, with some great restaurants and bars opening along N. Clark. Some antique furniture shops, boutiques, cafes to note, along with Chicago Music Lounge. But again, nothing that you can't find in Wicker, Bucktown, Logan Sq.

I suppose the Swedish heritage component probably plays nicely, as it's not that common to see Swedish-American neighborhoods. It's also very LGBTQ+ friendly. I could certainly see how that plays into the cool moniker.
I think what makes Andersonville cool for these rankings is that it's

1) A gay haven
2) has a terrific strip of hip shops/restaurants along Clark that is right up there with any
3) is very proximate to the Lake
4) has an idyllic warren of leafy residential streets

I agree it's not necessarily any cooler than 2-3 other Chicago neighborhoods (Bucktown/Wicker/West Loop come to mind), but I don't think it's decidedly behind any of them either. (we live 1 mile west of Andersonville).

Pilsen isn't on this level, despite many wanting it to be.
Same with Logan.
Lincoln Square/Ravenswood/North Center are a little too quiet to be considered this "cool"
Lakeview is just so massive
Lincoln Park is probably too cliche
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Old 10-26-2021, 02:42 AM
 
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I think what makes Andersonville cool for these rankings is that it's

1) A gay haven
2) has a terrific strip of hip shops/restaurants along Clark that is right up there with any
3) is very proximate to the Lake
4) has an idyllic warren of leafy residential streets

I agree it's not necessarily any cooler than 2-3 other Chicago neighborhoods (Bucktown/Wicker/West Loop come to mind), but I don't think it's decidedly behind any of them either. (we live 1 mile west of Andersonville).

Pilsen isn't on this level, despite many wanting it to be.
Same with Logan.
Lincoln Square/Ravenswood/North Center are a little too quiet to be considered this "cool"
Lakeview is just so massive
Lincoln Park is probably too cliche
Andersonville being number 2 is a joke.

I'd take Seattle's Scandinavian enclave, Ballard, over Andersonville any day. Ballard has more bars, more restaurants, a cooler layout, better music venues, better Scandinavian bakeries, the Viking Days and Seafood Fest Festivals, and one of the best Farmer's Market's in the country.

Ballard is also close to the famous locks, Shilshole bay and Golden Gardens beach. Plus you can drink with the fisherman from The Deadliest Catch at "The Smoke Shop", one of the local bars on Ballard Ave that opens at 6am.

And - AND, in case that isn't enough, adjacent to the main commercial district of Ballard is an industrial area that is now home to at least a dozen local breweries with taprooms.

One thing Ballard is lacking is it doesn't have many establishments oriented towards gays and lesbians. No gay bars or anything like that. However, like most of urban Seattle, it is an extremely LGTBQ-friendly neighborhood

And Ballard also has a 4-star hotel smack dab in the middle of it, ranked the 6th best in Seattle:https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Re...ashington.html

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Old 10-26-2021, 07:48 AM
 
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Andersonville being number 2 is a joke.

I'd take Seattle's Scandinavian enclave, Ballard, over Andersonville any day. Ballard has more bars, more restaurants, a cooler layout, better music venues, better Scandinavian bakeries, the Viking Days and Seafood Fest Festivals, and one of the best Farmer's Market's in the country.

Ballard is also close to the famous locks, Shilshole bay and Golden Gardens beach. Plus you can drink with the fisherman from The Deadliest Catch at "The Smoke Shop", one of the local bars on Ballard Ave that opens at 6am.

And - AND, in case that isn't enough, adjacent to the main commercial district of Ballard is an industrial area that is now home to at least a dozen local breweries with taprooms.

One thing Ballard is lacking is it doesn't have many establishments oriented towards gays and lesbians. No gay bars or anything like that. However, like most of urban Seattle, it is an extremely LGTBQ-friendly neighborhood[/url]
I love Ballard, it's my favorite Seattle neighborhood by a mile. That is where we would have ended up had we stayed in Seattle/left Bellevue.

But as many have conceded, Andersonville is far from Chicago's coolest neighborhood. Many cities can cherry pick their best, and be cooler than Andersonville.

In the same way Andersonville can't stand up to Ballard, Ballard can't stand up to Wicker Park/Bucktown. The bars, restaurants, outdoor patios and beer gardens, live music, street festivals are a major step up in Wicker/Park. It's just a far more lively, urban, complete neighborhood. And the residential areas are a good bit prettier, too.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9030...7i13312!8i6656

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My favorite spots in Wicker/Bucktown include: The 606 parks and path, The Robey Hotel (rooftop is unbelievable), The Violet Hour, Etta, Dorians Through the Record Shop, Dove's Luncheonette, Subterranean, Mindy's Hot Chocolate, Amaru, Small Cheval, Map Room, Tortella, Smoke Daddy, Cafe Istanbul, Osteria Rusticana, Parlor, and (shamefully) Big Star. Endless options.

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Old 10-26-2021, 09:05 AM
 
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Again, I know most comments are not necessarily to mock Andersonville as a meh choice. Apparently there was a reason some stars aligned. I see it as a North Shore of Chicago honor over some in stone border one. Clark St going thru these neighborhoods is a great corridor branching off to leafy dense neighborhoods.

These list again change yearly. It is not a scientific study and a local scene of magazine workers in many world cities. Probably aids in choices or narrows it down. Most international city neighborhoods we will never see to compare. So the few US city ones a year we can just downplay and another or another city's is better. Well, better luck next year. These are geared to travel and tourism options for travelers choosing cities to jet off to next.

Last year by TimeOut Uptown Chicago was #24. Some might say nothing can be close to NYC hippist areas. Yet will they win yearly? Of course not. These publications have to mix it up and spread da luv.

Forbe's world neighborhood list for 2019 had Pilson, Chicago at 10. Filipinotown, LA at #5 and Astoria, NYC at #8 in American city choices. Forbe's had Pilson, Chi on its 2018 list also.

BusinessInsider also makes these list. West Loop Chicago was #18 for 2018. West Village, NYC #17, Highland Park, LA #9 and no US city higher that year.

Again, why mock Andersonville? Just a my choice for next year is _ _ _ _ neighborhood is sufficient. So Seattle has a better former Swedish hip neighborhood? Guess it was a -- How dare TimeOut give lil ole Andersonville a shout out rating for one year at a #2.
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Old 10-26-2021, 10:48 AM
 
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I love Ballard, it's my favorite Seattle neighborhood by a mile. That is where we would have ended up had we stayed in Seattle/left Bellevue.

But as many have conceded, Andersonville is far from Chicago's coolest neighborhood. Many cities can cherry pick their best, and be cooler than Andersonville.

In the same way Andersonville can't stand up to Ballard, Ballard can't stand up to Wicker Park/Bucktown. The bars, restaurants, outdoor patios and beer gardens, live music, street festivals are a major step up in Wicker/Park. It's just a far more lively, urban, complete neighborhood. And the residential areas are a good bit prettier, too.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9030...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9093...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9032...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9120...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9089...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9041...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9093...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9128...7i16384!8i8192

My favorite spots in Wicker/Bucktown include: The 606 parks and path, The Robey Hotel (rooftop is unbelievable), The Violet Hour, Etta, Dorians Through the Record Shop, Dove's Luncheonette, Subterranean, Mindy's Hot Chocolate, Amaru, Small Cheval, Map Room, Tortella, Smoke Daddy, Cafe Istanbul, Osteria Rusticana, Parlor, and (shamefully) Big Star. Endless options.
I just brought up Ballard because it's also a Scandinavian neighborhood, like Andersonville. But you're right that Wicker Park/Bucktown (and I'd add the adjacent Ukranian Village there too) is better than Ballard in those categories.

The only area in Seattle that's in the conversation with WP/BT/UV is Capitol Hill. I'm not sure when you were last there, but the whole area has blown up since the subway station was opened in 2016. Pike/Pine, Broadway, Olive Way, etc. - there are a ton of bars and restaurants over a large swath of area and it has a strong counterculture vibe. WP probably edges it out still by a sliver, but that's the area in Seattle to compare it to.
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