Best outer neighborhood in midsized cities (living, rates, places, America)

[btownboss4]

I feel like a lot of focus in places on immediately Downtown adjacent neighborhoods like Ohio City, the Histiruc 3rd Ward or Charlotte’s South End.

But what is the best urban neighborhood in midsized cities

More or less the most village like that operates as a separate city independent of the broader city.

Something like Cincinnati North Side or East Liberty in Pittsburgh. Places with significant distance from the city center.

[1greatcity]

Pittsburgh and Cincinnati are not “mid-size cities”. They’re large urban areas of more than two million people. To me, good examples of mid-size cities would be Des Moines, Baton Rouge and Colorado Springs. I suppose Pittsburgh is a mid-size city from the prospective of, say, a New Yorker. But to most people, it’s a big city.

[TheTimidBlueBars]

Old Colorado City, Colorado Springs. Former gold rush town that was eventually annexed into the city of COS

https://goo.gl/maps/3zHxWG4jrMBHhz6TA
https://goo.gl/maps/oRt6isvEWkx3xwer6

Bevo, St Louis. Has a significant Bosnian-American community that started immigrating there around 1992 when the Bosnian War broke out. Note the "Halal Meat" sign

https://goo.gl/maps/Qd7pZghSgRuzMbwf9
https://goo.gl/maps/1jn8EdfmvDcc3iy56

[blaserbrad]

In Tacoma there is Ruston which is like it's own seaside village. About 4.5 miles from downtown. There's a lot of newer development but also historic homes and structures.

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.2982...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.2999...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.2997...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.2982...7i16384!8i8192

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by 1greatcity

Pittsburgh and Cincinnati are not “mid-size cities”. They’re large urban areas of more than two million people. To me, good examples of mid-size cities would be Des Moines, Baton Rouge and Colorado Springs. I suppose Pittsburgh is a mid-size city from the prospective of, say, a New Yorker. But to most people, it’s a big city.

Birmingham Alabama is the median population center in America. With 1/2 of the country living in more populous and 1/2 in less populous areas.

That’s 1.1 million people.

Considering 58 million live in rural parts of the country the median city dweller is right about Nashville or Cleveland or so at ~2 million.

And that’s using the census definition. I really am not sure how many people would really consider Kokomo or Pittsfield city folk.

[ckhthankgod]

What is considered to be mid sized in terms of this thread?

Buffalo has Elmwood Village: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9171...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

and the North Park portion of North Buffalo: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9477...7i16384!8i8192

Perhaps Rochester NY's Park Avenue: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1481...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

and even Swillburg: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1388...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

Maybe Syracuse's Eastwood was once a separate community: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0684...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

and perhaps Westcott: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0401...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

Albany's Pine Hills: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6665...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

and Helderburg/New Scotland neighborhoods: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6665...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6569...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

In the same metro area, Schenectady's Upper Union Street: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8050...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

Allentown's West End Theatre District: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6029...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Maybe Bethlehem's South Side Historic District: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6104...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

Perhaps Lansing's REO Town: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7196...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

and Old Town neighborhoods: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7481...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by btownboss4

Birmingham Alabama is the median population center in America. With 1/2 of the country living in more populous and 1/2 in less populous areas.

That’s 1.1 million people.

Considering 58 million live in rural parts of the country the median city dweller is right about Nashville or Cleveland or so at ~2 million.

And that’s using the census definition. I really am not sure how many people would really consider Kokomo or Pittsfield city folk.

Wouldn't the median be 1.1 million, or was the 58 million not included in that calculation.

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by annie_himself

Wouldn't the median be 1.1 million, or was the 58 million not included in that calculation.

Yes median for the whole county is Birmingham Alabama (1.15M).

But since 58 million people don’t live in cities if you’re trying to find the median city it’s like Nashville or Cleveland or so. (~2m)


The median person in a metro area lives in like Cincinnati

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by btownboss4

Yes median for the whole county is Birmingham Alabama (1.15M).

But since 58 million people don’t live in cities if you’re trying to find the median city it’s like Nashville or Cleveland or so. (~2m)


The median person in a metro area lives in like Cincinnati

I feel like that 58 million should be accounted for.

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by annie_himself

I feel like that 58 million should be accounted for.

The thing is “city” implies a certain population. People from Franconia NH or Matthew’s LA wouldn’t say they’re from a city. So that’s why I wouldn’t count them towards mid sized city.

A mid sized city and a mid sized settlement are not the same thing because City is a particularly large settlement by definition

Birmingham Ala is the median settlement but Cleveland is the median city. If that makes sense?