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View Poll Results: Best Metro for High school sports succcess
Atlanta 4 13.33%
Boston 2 6.67%
Charlotte 0 0%
Chicago 2 6.67%
Cincinatti 1 3.33%
Dallas/FW 7 23.33%
Denver 0 0%
Detroit 0 0%
D.C.-Baltimore 4 13.33%
Houston 2 6.67%
Miami 1 3.33%
Nashville 0 0%
Los Angeles 5 16.67%
NYC 0 0%
St. Louis 1 3.33%
Denver 0 0%
Phoenix 0 0%
Portland 0 0%
Seattle 0 0%
S.F Bay Area 1 3.33%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-18-2021, 03:06 PM
 
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The new Buford high school looks like a small college campus: https://www.ajc.com/news/residents-c...eGUFQYXBQUIjM/
With all due respect, that looks like a fairly standard new high school.

Some of the new high schools they’re building in Massachusetts are insane. Newton North comes to mind with its $200M price tag. Billerica High School $175M, etc.
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Old 12-20-2021, 09:09 AM
 
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States are far easier to "track" than cities.

For the sports that I know well... I'd guess the following is true, using some combination of talent, collegiate output and the importance of each sport in each State.

Football:
Florida
California
Texas
Georgia
Louisiana/Alabama/Mississippi

Baseball:
Florida
California
Texas
Georgia
North Carolina/South Carolina

Hockey:
Minnesota
Michigan
Massachusetts
New York
Wisconsin/Connecticut

Basketball:
Texas
California
Illinois
North Carolina
Georgia

Deductive reasoning would tell me that Texas, California, Florida, and Georgia cities should be at the top of the list. More specifically, DFW, Houston, LA, ATL, Miami-Fort Lauderdale, followed by cities like Orlando and Austin.

I'm going Atlanta, as it probably outpaces the Texas or California cities on a p/capita basis in baseball and football. Florida talent is dispersed across the entire state, so it's tough to choose one mecca city there.

Gone are the days of cities like New York and Chicago ranking near the top of anything, with the exception of Chicago and basketball which is still one of the top dogs.

Name metro Atlanta players in the MLB the last five years and those drafted in the top 10? That's why I posted the link on DFW MLB players in 2018. Also, DFW actually has had a local kid get drafted in top 5 in the NHL draft since 2017 because of the Dallas Stars arena league with several locations. In terms of track, several gold Olympians in track & field and Gymnastics. Houston can say the same in Olympic talent. in 2019, Houston had the top sprinter in High School who is now on scholarship at Georgia.
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Old 12-20-2021, 09:22 AM
 
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This is true but lets cut it down to the major metros areas because that was the focus of the poll.
D.C and Baltimore vs. DFW and Houston Maryland and VA don't have six man football, or 2A classifications. Texas has TWO 5A and TWO 6A divisions.

Also, neither state is known for its prowess in soccer, track & field golf, swimming tennis, baseball, areas in which Texas male high school students have viable D-1 scholarship opportunities. Name me a student in any of those sports who made the Major team sports (outside of football), won a PGA event, or medaled in the Olympics (outside of baseball).
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Old 12-20-2021, 09:38 AM
 
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Florida and South Florida specifically dominates the NFL talent market.

Miami also does great per capita for producing Major League Baseball talent.

Florida actually does quite well for basketball (6th for NBA talent) and soccer talent too.

South Florida also does great at golf, tennis and swimming.

South Florida is pretty much the UFC training capital of the world.

The Florida Panthers are 1st place in the NHL and the Tampa Bay Lightning won the Stanley Cup last year.




---HIGH SCHOOL CITIES WITH MOST NFL PLAYERS 2021---



Miami, FL ------------- 19

Houston, TX ---------- 18

New Orleans, LA ------ 15

Detroit, MI ------------ 14

Bradenton, FL --------- 12

Cincinnati, OH --------- 12

Fort Lauderdale, FL -- 12

Jacksonville, FL -------- 12

Philadelphia, PA ------- 12

Plantation, FL -------- 12

Cleveland, OH --------- 11

Tampa, FL -------------- 11

Richmond, VA ---------- 10

St. Louis, MO ----------- 10


https://highschoolfootballamerica.co...ekend-rosters/

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---6 Cities Producing the Most Current MLB Players 2020---


--By city proper--


6. Miami, U.S.A. — 8 active players

5. Maracay, Venezuela — 8 active players

4. San Pedro De Macorís, Dominican Republic — 9 active players

3. San Diego, U.S.A. — 10 active players

2. Houston, U.S.A. — 15 players

1. Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic — 18



https://www.sportscasting.com/these-...t-mlb-players/

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---Baseball Hotbeds: Where Do Pro Baseball Players Come From?---



Using high school locations for nearly 12,000 players active in the majors or minors from 2011 to 2017, we found each state's rate of pro players per 100,000 residents.



Players Per 100,000 people



Florida ------- 6.15

California ----- 5.70

Georgia ------- 5.11

Mississippi ---- 5.00

Arizona ------- 4.76

Louisiana ----- 4.51

Alabama ------ 4.48

Oklahoma ---- 4.44



https://www.baseballamerica.com/stor...ers-come-from/

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--NBA Talent By Region--




The problem with this list is its not based on the Metro. For example, Houston is top 2 but Dallas is not even in the top 10? Ask Ohio State, Oklahoma. Notre Dame, Michigan, LSU and Alabama how much they like the area? The City of Houston is twice the size of Dallas itself. but DFW MSA is 700K larger than Metro Houston. So let's add in Dallas suburbs of Plano, Allen, DeSoto, Duncanville, Wylie and Dallas is easily #2. That doesn't include Arlington (Myles Garrett) or Fort Worth, both part of the MSA. For the 2021 NFL draft, eight DFW areas high schoolers were selected in rounds 1 -3, 14 total were drafted. https://texashsfootball.com/texas-hi...ks-from-texas/
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Old 12-20-2021, 09:46 AM
 
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This is true but lets cut it down to the major metros areas because that was the focus of the poll.
D.C and Baltimore vs. DFW and Houston Maryland and VA don't have six man football, or 2A classifications. Texas has TWO 5A and TWO 6A divisions.

Also, neither state is known for its prowess in soccer, track & field golf, swimming tennis, baseball, areas in which Texas male high school students have viable D-1 scholarship opportunities. Name me a student in any of those sports who made the Major team sports (outside of football), won a PGA event, or medaled in the Olympics (outside of baseball).
This article alone bodes well for the MD side: https://www.nbcsports.com/washington...mpic-medalists
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Old 12-20-2021, 10:26 AM
 
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Although not an apples to apples comparison but the state of Texas has produced a lot of high level NFL QB's recently.

Just off the top of my head Luck, Mahomes, Brees, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, etc.
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Old 12-20-2021, 01:08 PM
 
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With all due respect, that looks like a fairly standard new high school.

Some of the new high schools they’re building in Massachusetts are insane. Newton North comes to mind with its $200M price tag. Billerica High School $175M, etc.
I wouldn't say "standard new." The two you mentioned are outliers just like Buford.

I think North Atlanta High School might be the coolest high school in America as it took over an IBM office campus. Students taking elevators to different classes: https://www.buckhead.com/schools/nor...a-high-school/
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Old 12-20-2021, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Although not an apples to apples comparison but the state of Texas has produced a lot of high level NFL QB's recently.

Just off the top of my head Luck, Mahomes, Brees, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, etc.
Add Matthew Stafford, Jalen Hurts, Nick Foles, Case Keenum, Andy Dalton, Ryan Tannehill and Colt McCoy
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Old 12-20-2021, 10:09 PM
 
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I wouldn't say "standard new." The two you mentioned are outliers just like Buford.

I think North Atlanta High School might be the coolest high school in America as it took over an IBM office campus. Students taking elevators to different classes: https://www.buckhead.com/schools/nor...a-high-school/
Not to make this a total bake-off...

“Nearly a dozen years after the $197.5 million Newton North High School broke the state record for most expensive school, some of the latest projects make that figure pale in comparison. Those include Somerville High ($256 million); Lowell High School ($343 million); a combined Belmont High School and Middle School ($295 million); and Arlington High School ($291 million).”

The crazy thing, some of these new schools that clear $200M are in relatively small districts comparatively.

Illinois districts with 3,500 student in the high school stress over $20M addition/enhancement projects. Meanwhile high schools with less than 1,700 kids in Massachusetts are walking the halls of a new high school that cost $200M.

BUT as it relates to this thread, the athletic facilities in those MA schools are very average. Most of that money is not spent on athletics - Quite frankly, I wish a few more dollars were.
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