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NYC def seems to have peaked. Tons of new units have yet to be sold on billionaires row. They could still see more built in Queens and Brooklyn though. Maybe NYC will have secondary skylines that aren't as secondary as they have been.
NYC currently has 57 buildings above 300 ft under construction, with 3 being supertalls (JP Morgan Chase World HQ, Brooklyn tower, the Spiral).
There are also about ~100 proposals (hard to track them all), with about 11 proposed supertalls (3 of which at least should be u/c by next year).
While it is lower than the last cycle, NYC has hardly peaked. In terms of very tall skyscrapers (say above 800ft), NYC still builds the equivalent of the rest of the US combined.
NYC currently has 57 buildings above 300 ft under construction, with 3 being supertalls (JP Morgan Chase World HQ, Brooklyn tower, the Spiral).
There are also about ~100 proposals (hard to track them all), with about 11 proposed supertalls.
While it is lower than the last cycle, NYC has hardly peaked. In terms of very tall skyscrapers (say above 800ft), NYC still builds the equivalent of the rest of the US combined.
Agreed. I read that post and was like uhm, that's not even close to accurate.
In downtown Brooklyn alone, there are 4 or 5 under construction right now, with another 8-10+ proposed.
The number of skyscrapers in Brooklyn today over 300 feet, is 62.
Brooklyn's total skyscraper count alone is greater than almost every single US city today, with the exception of 6 or 7, or so.
(Seattle, San Fran, LA, Houston, Atlanta, Miami, Chicago)
NYC's skyscraper construction is going strong, and should continue to over the next several years, if the economy stays strong.
Agreed. I read that post and was like uhm, that's not even close to accurate.
In downtown Brooklyn alone, there are 4 or 5 under construction right now, with another 8-10+ proposed.
The number of skyscrapers in Brooklyn today over 300 feet, is 62.
Brooklyn's total skyscraper count alone is greater than almost every single US city today, with the exception of 6 or 7, or so.
(Seattle, San Fran, LA, Houston, Atlanta, Miami, Chicago)
NYC's skyscraper construction is going strong, and should continue to over the next several years, if the economy stays strong.
I mean Brooklyn has the population of Chicago proper in 1/3 of the space .... it has always been able to support and absorb insane skyscraper growth independently of Manhattan, the only reason it's took off this last decade is because land prices in Manhattan have become so comically expensive.
I mean Brooklyn has the population of Chicago proper in 1/3 of the space .... it has always been able to support and absorb insane skyscraper growth independently of Manhattan, the only reason it's took off this last decade is because land prices in Manhattan have become so comically expensive.
Plus workers actually want to live in Brooklyn. Many employers are following the workers.
As far as the future, I have a lot more faith in things moving along now that the state is involved. The original height of Salesforce Tower as 1,200 ft but they had to lop off 130 ft to satisfy NIMBYs. Hopefully this time it's different.
Yep... and the Transamerica Pyramid was to top out at 1,150 feet before the NIMBYs got involved...
Haven't read this entire thread but was someone arguing that Austin would ever catch Chicago?
Generally speaking when talking about growth people speak in relative terms. By that, Austin is probably the second fastest growing city over the last 50 years after Vegas. (Vegas, Austin, Charlotte, and Orlando are all fairly close). I'd imagine that since 2000 Austin is probably #1.
In any case, it won't ever catch Chicago in population, much less as an urban center. I doubt that even Austin-San Antonio as a mega region could catch Chicago. That doesn't make Austin's growth any less real. Multiple ideas can be true at the same time.
It was somewhat implied as a poster brought up population loss (in a thread about skyscrapers).
The fact that "Austin-San Antonio" is even suggested as a thing is a huge tell that many people are aware that Austin's growth will soon begin to level out.
NYC currently has 57 buildings above 300 ft under construction, with 3 being supertalls (JP Morgan Chase World HQ, Brooklyn tower, the Spiral).
There are also about ~100 proposals (hard to track them all), with about 11 proposed supertalls (3 of which at least should be u/c by next year).
While it is lower than the last cycle, NYC has hardly peaked. In terms of very tall skyscrapers (say above 800ft), NYC still builds the equivalent of the rest of the US combined.
This is how it works and also applies to mass transit.
The cities that have substantial systems in place are expanding them, regardless of population gain/loss.
The cities that have nothing continue to have nothing despite population booms.
What I'm waiting for is for one of the legacy rust belt cities like Detroit or Cleveland that does nothing but lose population throw up a huge skyscraper just for the lulz.
This is how it works and also applies to mass transit.
The cities that have substantial systems in place are expanding them, regardless of population gain/loss.
The cities that have nothing continue to have nothing despite population booms.
What I'm waiting for is for one of the legacy rust belt cities like Detroit or Cleveland that does nothing but lose population throw up a huge skyscraper just for the lulz.
This was actually super close to happening in Detroit. The currently under construction Hudson Tower was supposed to be the tallest in the city at over 900 ft, but they cut it down to just under 700 ft at the last minute. Now they're getting a 680 ft tower and another 300-400 footer a few blocks away. Cleveland damn near has a super tall, and Sherwin Williams is building a 600 footer to fill in the gap near Public Square and Tower City.
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