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Why would it be Phoenix when Vegas has an army of sex workers, cooks (usually comes with ‘underground’ culture), comedians, artists, and various vagabonds?
First of all it's about twice the size, is home to a major university (much larger than UNLV) and is full of ex-Californians. It's been a major metro longer as well. Have you been there?
First of all it's about twice the size, is home to a major university (much larger than UNLV) and is full of ex-Californians. It's been a major metro longer as well. Have you been there?
Sounds like you haven't been to Vegas, because you seem to think that size is important to define culture. Let me give you a counter example. Dallas should have a larger counterculture than Asheville North Carolina simply because it's more than 10 times the size. But Asheville is defined by its counterculture, much more than Dallas is, even though it's a lot smaller. In that way, size would actually work against Phoenix
Vegas has a notorious reputation for being filled with transient people and non-traditional lifestyles. You really think Phoenix can compete?
First of all it's about twice the size, is home to a major university (much larger than UNLV) and is full of ex-Californians. It's been a major metro longer as well. Have you been there?
No I haven’t been to Phoenix but for all the reasons superpowers and I already said I don’t think I need to, honestly Phoenix seems like the opposite of alt culture form where I sit and it not a city I really want to visit tbh. It’s a city known for retirees, golf courses and conservative to moderate politics. I also have 0 clue what size has to do with it as many of the most quirky or alternative type cities I know of are in small metros..
No I haven’t been to Phoenix but for all the reasons superpowers and I already said I don’t think I need to, honestly Phoenix seems like the opposite of alt culture form where I sit and it not a city I really want to visit tbh. It’s a city known for retirees, golf courses and conservative to moderate politics. I also have 0 clue what size has to do with it as many of the most quirky or alternative type cities I know of are in small metros..
Sorry you feel this way. You're missing out on a dynamic and unique major Metro that runs circles around Vegas, in my opinion.
And for every funky and alternative small town, there are 100,000 that are the polar opposite. Size definitely matters.
No I haven’t been to Phoenix but for all the reasons superpowers and I already said I don’t think I need to, honestly Phoenix seems like the opposite of alt culture form where I sit and it not a city I really want to visit tbh. It’s a city known for retirees, golf courses and conservative to moderate politics. I also have 0 clue what size has to do with it as many of the most quirky or alternative type cities I know of are in small metros..
Typical. More, "No I haven't visited Phoenix, but..." nonsense. Perhaps one shouldn't be posting here if one truly doesn't have a clue.
After having spent some time now in both cities, I think Vegas has more of that alt look. I noticed the women in Las Vegas dressed a lot better/sexier than those in Phoenix, a lot more of that urban 'LA look' of Vans, ripped jeans and croptop shirts, some e girl aesthetic in Vegas. Phoenix definitely had more of that 'conservative suburbia blonde wife' style of dressing, maybe due to all the midwestern transplants, idk
Pop-punk? Thats for jocks and preppies. Punk, metal, grunge, hardcore, thrash - I think thats what youre looking for.
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