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Old 05-13-2022, 02:45 AM
 
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Lol @ Chicago crime not being talked about. Chicago has been the right wing's media punching bag for inner city crime ever since Obama got elected in '08.
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Old 05-13-2022, 06:04 AM
 
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This is unreal. Something is going on in Chicago that isn't talked about.
Talking about gun violence and how to prevent it is tricky because it's very politically charged on both sides, guns are heavily woven into the fabric of American culture and our society is very touchy feely about the whole thing. Implement strict gun laws? you're a communist! not a real American! Clean up inner cities and reduce crime? racist! you support fascist police! give everyone guns? you're a crazy republican! keep our kids safe! there's no progress being made or any real solutions to the problem because people refuse to have a rational discussion about it.
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Old 05-13-2022, 06:41 AM
 
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We don’t have the crime of the 80s and 90s due to Roe v Wade being implemented in 1973 and a major reduction in lead paint and gas (which wafted in the air) and gains in technology and forensics. We live in a much more controlled and monitored state in general due to the crime that society experienced back the same
Under discussed is the fact that blowing up the mob but also not legalizing any of their revenue streams (drugs, gambling, etc) caused a turf war in the 1980s and 1990s. Which was pretty much settled into the status quo. Then in ~2011-2012 Obama and Mexican Administrations started going after the cartels sparking a new turf war that lead to rising crime in the later part of the 2010s. Mexico (and Canada) had the same pattern as the US over the last 40 years just with a different magnitude

Like Mexico saw a big decline in crime thru the 2000s without Roe v Wade. It’s just Criminal elements reached a sort of story’s quo.
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Old 05-13-2022, 08:16 AM
 
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"Bad, bad night in Baltimore: 7 people shot, 4 of them fatally, including a pregnant woman who gave birth shortly before dying; the child is in critical condition.
At least two teenagers were also shot. One of the dead was found in a vacant" - Justin Fenton

There was a shooting the other day where somebody shot 60 rounds with an AR at 1:00 PM at a group of people but only 1 died. 10 people got shot that day.
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Old 05-13-2022, 09:13 AM
 
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There's been 5 murders the past 2 days HR on the southside.

• 2 in Norfolk, one being in the Ocean View neighborhood and another in the Crown Point area. Brings their total to 22.

• 2 in Portsmouth, after a woman was shot in the middle of a road in the Lakeview area of the city and a man was shot in the Simonsdale area. Brings their total to 12.

• 1 in Suffolk after a 38 y/o man was shot in front of some apartments near the downtown area. Brings their total to 3.

Norfolk - 22 | 9.2
Richmond - 22 | 9.7
Hampton - 12 | 8.7
Portsmouth - 12 | 12.2
Virginia Beach - 10 | 2.1
Chesapeake - 10 | 4
Newport News - 9 | 4.8
Petersburg - 8 | 23.9
Fairfax County - 6 | 0.5
Roanoke - 6 | 5.9
Prince William County - 3 | 0.6
Suffolk - 3 | 3.1
Hopewell - 2 | 8.6
Alexandria - 1 | 0.6
Arlington County - 1 | 0.4
Lynchburg - 1 | 1.2
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Old 05-13-2022, 10:15 AM
 
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Lol @ Chicago crime not being talked about. Chicago has been the right wing's media punching bag for inner city crime ever since Obama got elected in '08.
Ever since then Chicago took the place of Detroit in the negative spotlight.
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Old 05-13-2022, 10:21 AM
 
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The 80s and 90s is like if these elevated murder rates keep goin on to the 2030s and 40s.. I hope not, but I think the technology is too much for things to get that out of control, regardless how the right keep talking about revolving doors, thats nothing new, I think its the technology that prevents the intensity of the situation because of the experience gained from the 70s to 90s.. but the overall crime rate, even though it rised, its still far from back then, its just different.
So it was a steady increase though the 70's and 80's peaking out in the late 80's/early 90's during the crack epidemic era? It seems like since then we've just had temporary surges lasting 2-3 years at a time in the early 2000's (after 9/11 and the dot com recession), then mid-to-late 2000's (after Katrina), mid 2010's (after Ferguson), and early 2020's (during the COVID pandemic). While overall it was a decline that bottomed out in the early 2010's.
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Old 05-13-2022, 04:53 PM
 
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Just read that Akron had its 11th of the year. Akron has been between 30-40 I believe in recent years. So doesn't seem to be a big uptick there.

I haven't seen an update on Cleveland in about a month (last I saw was 44). I'm guessing probably at least 10 since then so I'd estimate it's around mid 50s. Again, probably around the same as recent years.

The Cuyahoga suburbs saw a huge increase last year but really haven't read about too many this year. Last year there were about 50 total in the burbs. This year, probably still under 10.
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Old 05-13-2022, 05:03 PM
 
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So it was a steady increase though the 70's and 80's peaking out in the late 80's/early 90's during the crack epidemic era? It seems like since then we've just had temporary surges lasting 2-3 years at a time in the early 2000's (after 9/11 and the dot com recession), then mid-to-late 2000's (after Katrina), mid 2010's (after Ferguson), and early 2020's (during the COVID pandemic). While overall it was a decline that bottomed out in the early 2010's.



Its gonna sound racists but we going through what happened in the mid 60s
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Old 05-13-2022, 07:08 PM
 
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Talking about gun violence and how to prevent it is tricky because it's very politically charged on both sides, guns are heavily woven into the fabric of American culture and our society is very touchy feely about the whole thing. Implement strict gun laws? you're a communist! not a real American! Clean up inner cities and reduce crime? racist! you support fascist police! give everyone guns? you're a crazy republican! keep our kids safe! there's no progress being made or any real solutions to the problem because people refuse to have a rational discussion about it.
It shouldn't be political. Everyone has the right to be safe and live in peace.
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