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Most who know St Louis know that if you move the city to the west by two miles, the place would undoubtedly be larger and safer.
Boston is all around a better city accept harsh winters and costs. St. Louis could take quite a few lessons from Boston especially safety.
I think the general idea is a lot of people from St Louis (and other “small cities” like Cleveland or Cincinnati) harp on how their rates are so high because city limits are small. While ignoring 186 homicides is a huge raw number regardless of how suburbanized the metro is
Miami has small city limits and a small amount of homicides. You have to judge St. Louis on its city limits. Yes the city limits are small but a large number of murders take place in that small area. So this dosent effect someone as much that is in another suburb close by as much as it can effect the person living within those city limits that deals with it. If you are safer 2 miles away that does no good for the 300,000 living within those small city limits.
I could say if you add on 3 miles to Albuquerque’s southside city limits then crime would probably go up. We could say things like that for every city. This just lets you know how dangerous Inner city St Louis actually is.
I think the general idea is a lot of people from St Louis (and other “small cities” like Cleveland or Cincinnati) harp on how their rates are so high because city limits are small. While ignoring 186 homicides is a huge raw number regardless of how suburbanized the metro is
St. Louis city has 10% of the msa population but majority of the areas poverty is something that needs to be considered when comparing one city against another especially big cities with small MSAs.
When looking at violent crime stats at the msa level St Louis is nowhere to be found but Anchorage and Albuquerque jumps to the top of the list.
Also some cities do not have the same method of counting homicides as others.
I believe St. Louis people are justified in bringing up taking a more balanced look at crime statistics. At the same time, I can see some being spoiled by living in a city like Boston that is not only safe at the city level but MSA and state level.
I think the general idea is a lot of people from St Louis (and other “small cities” like Cleveland or Cincinnati) harp on how their rates are so high because city limits are small. While ignoring 186 homicides is a huge raw number regardless of how suburbanized the metro is
The way the St Louis crime apologists speak, you would think that St Louis were some small enclave, when in reality it's a city with 79 defined neighborhoods, that once held 850K+ people, with more square miles of land than Pittsburgh, DC, San Fransisco, Miami, Boston, Manhattan, and Newark.
Boston+Cambridge+Somerville+Brookline+Chelsea
(~700k+~120k+~82k+65k+41k)= Roughly 1.0mil people
2 murders in a land area of 68 square miles holding 1 million people 2 months into the year.
Helps to live in a literate/educated area.
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