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As for the Tacoma rappers, Vince Adultman posted a bunch a while ago and I remember being pretty impressed. I'll see if I can find some. One I remember and that I like is Bruce Leroy:
ehh no shade, no hate but I'm not really feeling that, seems pretty dated. Kinda basic. I also looked into RJ Suave and MKF Lewie again. I think there might be a lack of rappers/competition advancing the sound and standards forward out there. Its sounds like Boston-level quality in 2010 when we didnt have a scene. Damn, this sounds arrogant but its just very honest. Not just Boston but ik Dallas has a better sound quality than that.
I like the Bostons scene because its got variety and isn't chasing one particular sound
thats on top of the mainstream stuff simmering. And the more typical east coast lyrical stuff.
I'm not from there and can't claim to be an expert so I probably didn't pull the right songs, but I just remember hearing some tracks and thinking they have a pretty good scene for a city of ~200K.
Here's one from Tacoma rapper Lewie that I do like:
What's notable is there was no national major act here.They weren't an "opening act" This was just a show for 1 local Boston rapper (BoriRock) and 1 local Boston rap group (Van Buren) that sold out the Paradise Rock Club. So basically, there's an organic heavily local-based scene that turns a profit for local venue operators there now. At least enough to sell 1,000 tickets.
I'm not from there and can't claim to be an expert so I probably didn't pull the right songs, but I just remember hearing some tracks and thinking they have a pretty good scene for a city of ~200K.
Here's one from Tacoma rapper Lewie that I do like:
Yea that's much better. Not bad at all. Funny Tacoma and Worcester are like demographic twins but they're crime rates are quite different. Despite lower income and higher poverty in Worcester.
I'm not from there and can't claim to be an expert so I probably didn't pull the right songs, but I just remember hearing some tracks and thinking they have a pretty good scene for a city of ~200K.
Tacoma might be better per capita, but Seattle hip-hop is better than Tacoma in my opinion:
Yea Boston is segregated. I never took the 23 but even on the 22 I don't remember ever seing other white people. Probably because the parts of that route white people would go to are serviced by the subway already so no point taking the bus unless you're going down at least past Jackson Square.
I don't see that as a good thing at all though or a plus for Boston. Also don't see why it would be a plus for the hip-hop scene. Boston and really many of the New England cities have a different feel on the ground from out West. It feels more established and more serious in a sense.
Its'a big generalization, but I've felt like Boston and places like Lynn, Lawrence, Brockton, Fall River have rules. People understand the rules and bystanders can feel reasonably safe as long as they follow those rules. When serious violence happens, it's usually based on disputes over those rules. I really never felt physically unsafe walking in any parts of Boston or those other cities during the day, because that's within the rules. The worst that might happen is you get robbed, but that's still in the rules and only if you're in a certain place with no one else around carrying things of value. At night the chances go way up, but still the chanecs of a violent encounter are fairly low since it would be a violation of the rules. Of course the rules do get broken and innocent people get hurt, but it's just rare relative to the level of organized crime and whatnot going on in the streets.
Ever since the mafia days the emphasis has been on making money and avoiding random acts of violence that draw attention /bad press unless it's seen as necessary to make a point, retaliation or defending assets. It feels that approach is still in play for the most part in Boston and nearby cities even as the demographics changed. I mean there has been just ludicrous amounts of drugs moved through places like Lawrence, Holyoke, DRM, Fall River and the busts will show you just a fraction of it which is still massive. While not necessarily safe, those cities remain safer than expected relative to those levels of activity that has gone on day in and day out for decades.
Those western cities including Seattle and Phoenix just seem more random to me. Like there aren't rules and some tweaker or mentally ill lunatic might just do anything to anyone completely unprovoked. The amounts of people who could and would shoot might be lower than somelace like Boston, but many of those ones are more volatile and irrational. I don't really know enough about those places to know if that's true or false, just the sense I get and a guess at why they still maintain medium-high crime rates in places like Phoenix /Tacoma etc.
Unfortunately for everyone else, that rules thing doesn't really seem to apply very many places AT ALL outside of New England and NYC. Atlanta doesn't have rules like that, dudes are getting in shootouts with the cops in upscale high rises, random toddlers getting shot in Buckhead parking lots on accident, all kinds of mayhem. And sadly some cities are even much worse than Atlanta for that kind of thing. They have the combination of no rules AND large amounts of people who could/would shoot.
Yea Boston is segregated. I never took the 23 but even on the 22 I don't remember ever seing other white people. Probably because the parts of that route white people would go to are serviced by the subway already so no point taking the bus unless you're going down at least past Jackson Square.
I don't see that as a good thing at all though or a plus for Boston. Also don't see why it would be a plus for the hip-hop scene. Boston and really many of the New England cities have a different feel on the ground from out West. It feels more established and more serious in a sense.
Its'a big generalization, but I've felt like Boston and places like Lynn, Lawrence, Brockton, Fall River have rules. People understand the rules and bystanders can feel reasonably safe as long as they follow those rules. When serious violence happens, it's usually based on disputes over those rules. I really never felt physically unsafe walking in any parts of Boston or those other cities during the day, because that's within the rules. The worst that might happen is you get robbed, but that's still in the rules and only if you're in a certain place with no one else around carrying things of value. At night the chances go way up, but still the chanecs of a violent encounter are fairly low since it would be a violation of the rules. Of course the rules do get broken and innocent people get hurt, but it's just rare relative to the level of organized crime and whatnot going on in the streets.
Ever since the mafia days the emphasis has been on making money and avoiding random acts of violence that draw attention /bad press unless it's seen as necessary to make a point, retaliation or defending assets. It feels that approach is still in play for the most part in Boston and nearby cities even as the demographics changed. I mean there has been just ludicrous amounts of drugs moved through places like Lawrence, Holyoke, DRM, Fall River and the busts will show you just a fraction of it which is still massive. While not necessarily safe, those cities remain safer than expected relative to those levels of activity that has gone on day in and day out for decades.
Those western cities including Seattle and Phoenix just seem more random to me. Like there aren't rules and some tweaker or mentally ill lunatic might just do anything to anyone completely unprovoked. The amounts of people who could and would shoot might be lower than somelace like Boston, but many of those ones are more volatile and irrational. I don't really know enough about those places to know if that's true or false, just the sense I get and a guess at why they still maintain medium-high crime rates in places like Phoenix /Tacoma etc.
Unfortunately for everyone else, that rules thing doesn't really seem to apply very many places AT ALL outside of New England and NYC. Atlanta doesn't have rules like that, dudes are getting in shootouts with the cops in upscale high rises, random toddlers getting shot in Buckhead parking lots on accident, all kinds of mayhem. And sadly some cities are even much worse than Atlanta for that kind of thing. They have the combination of no rules AND large amounts of people who could/would shoot.
Yea that all sounds true. Robbing is really the only thing I fear at night if I'm in the bad areas of Boston, and Housebreaks but there's way more organized stuff going on and definitely premium on not causing what the police there call "RaRa" drug dealing is tolerated an inceration stays low so long as gun violence and 'RaRa; is kept at a minimum. Lot more fist fights than straight to shooting situations than here in Baltimore wher eyou have to be extra nice to eveyrone because you might get shot by an angry person.
Yea Boston is segregated. I never took the 23 but even on the 22 I don't remember ever seing other white people. Probably because the parts of that route white people would go to are serviced by the subway already so no point taking the bus unless you're going down at least past Jackson Square.
I don't see that as a good thing at all though or a plus for Boston. Also don't see why it would be a plus for the hip-hop scene. Boston and really many of the New England cities have a different feel on the ground from out West. It feels more established and more serious in a sense.
Its'a big generalization, but I've felt like Boston and places like Lynn, Lawrence, Brockton, Fall River have rules. People understand the rules and bystanders can feel reasonably safe as long as they follow those rules. When serious violence happens, it's usually based on disputes over those rules. I really never felt physically unsafe walking in any parts of Boston or those other cities during the day, because that's within the rules. The worst that might happen is you get robbed, but that's still in the rules and only if you're in a certain place with no one else around carrying things of value. At night the chances go way up, but still the chanecs of a violent encounter are fairly low since it would be a violation of the rules. Of course the rules do get broken and innocent people get hurt, but it's just rare relative to the level of organized crime and whatnot going on in the streets.
Ever since the mafia days the emphasis has been on making money and avoiding random acts of violence that draw attention /bad press unless it's seen as necessary to make a point, retaliation or defending assets. It feels that approach is still in play for the most part in Boston and nearby cities even as the demographics changed. I mean there has been just ludicrous amounts of drugs moved through places like Lawrence, Holyoke, DRM, Fall River and the busts will show you just a fraction of it which is still massive. While not necessarily safe, those cities remain safer than expected relative to those levels of activity that has gone on day in and day out for decades.
Those western cities including Seattle and Phoenix just seem more random to me. Like there aren't rules and some tweaker or mentally ill lunatic might just do anything to anyone completely unprovoked. The amounts of people who could and would shoot might be lower than somelace like Boston, but many of those ones are more volatile and irrational. I don't really know enough about those places to know if that's true or false, just the sense I get and a guess at why they still maintain medium-high crime rates in places like Phoenix /Tacoma etc.
Unfortunately for everyone else, that rules thing doesn't really seem to apply very many places AT ALL outside of New England and NYC. Atlanta doesn't have rules like that, dudes are getting in shootouts with the cops in upscale high rises, random toddlers getting shot in Buckhead parking lots on accident, all kinds of mayhem. And sadly some cities are even much worse than Atlanta for that kind of thing. They have the combination of no rules AND large amounts of people who could/would shoot.
Yea that all sounds true. Robbing is really the only thing I fear at night if I'm in the bad areas of Boston, and Housebreaks but there's way more organized stuff going on and definitely premium on not causing what the police there call "RaRa" drug dealing is tolerated an inceration stays low so long as gun violence and 'RaRa; is kept at a minimum. Lot more fist fights than straight to shooting situations than here in Baltimore where you have to be extra nice to everyone because you might get shot by an angry person. The west coast and especially the white folk out there fele more unhinged/zany and unpredictable- yes.
Crime is heavily youth-oriented in Boston too- more so it seems than most cities. There is no official police gang unit. Just a Youth Violence Strike Force.
This week, a fight broke out between two students at the Henderson School in Dorchester; it was stopped by a staff member who was injured as a result, although not seriously. Boston police were called and filed a report about the altercation, which took place at the same school where last fall the principal was assaulted [and injured seriously, days-long stay in the hospital] and other fights have broken out.
According to Boston Police spokesman Sergeant Detective John Boyle, the March 29 incident is under investigation — making it the latest in a series of recent events involving violence or the threat of it in the Boston Public Schools. Earlier this month, two teenagers were arrested and charged in connection with the March 15 shooting of a teacher and student at TechBoston Academy in Dorchester. This week, a loaded gun was found in the fanny pack of a student at the Dearborn STEM Academy in Roxbury and the student was arrested; and last week another loaded gun was found in a storage room at Young Achievers Science and Mathematics Pilot School in Mattapan.
What’s going on? Ricardo Patrón, a spokesman for Mayor Michelle Wu, did not respond to e-mails seeking comment about the recent incidents. But according to one school official who didn’t want to be named, violence in some Boston neighborhoods is causing some students to bring guns to school because they don’t feel safe, which of course makes others feel unsafe.
In a typical year, pre-pandemic Boston has about 240 shooting victims. With probably less than 3% of them being white. So again it impacts people and the cities very differently.
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