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Originally Posted by manitopiaaa
Saint Louis County is also entering decline (its population peaked 22 years ago), and a lot of the chaos of Saint Louis city is increasingly an issue in the County (lest we forget the infamous Ferguson is in STL County).
It's to the point where richer residents now move from STL County to Saint Charles County (which is the new STL County).
I don't think amalgamation will do much. What STL needs is competent leadership and to tackle its third world homicide rates. Unfortunately the city is extremely ideological and elects red meat politicians who have good rhetoric but are **** poor city managers. Cori Bush (House Representative), Tishaura Jones (Mayor), and Kim Gardner (DA) are all disasters and come from the old tradition of blaming everything on the State Government and Saint Louis County. There's a kernel of truth to those claims (Jefferson City and the State GOP loathes Saint Louis), but the real problem in STL is self-inflicted (this is the short-sighted city, after all, that voluntarily demolished much of its extremely beautiful historic core).
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Agreed. They need to take ownership of their own problems.
St. Louis certainly has more of an identity to most outsiders. Not only for the gateway arch and beer stuff, but also it was a much more major city 100+ years ago. I think that memory still lingers somewhat.
Let's not forget the Cardinals, who at times can annoyingly seem like the National League Yankees: an apparel company that happens to field a baseball team.
Minneapolis, in spite of its recent issues, has its act together much more. I think the strongest thing people associate it with is the cold, but most of us here know better than that.