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The whole point about Chicago’s internationalism being very overrated doesn’t make doesn’t make a lot of sense. Sure it’s not on the level of Miami or New York but it’s on par with Boston and Dallas and I rarely hear people talk about the immigration levels of Chicago like it is on par with NYC. I’m not sure if part of it is that not a lot of the more international neighborhoods are in the direct core?
But they aren’t in Dallas either. In fact, I would argue Dallas’ international population is the most skewed to the suburbs of any of these places. And definitely more than Chicago (using Dallas as an example because you mentioned it).
For a city its stature it punches below its weight and certainly in the city proper. ON a city proper level it's not in the neighborhood of NYC and LA and well below Boston and some of Boston immediate surrounding cities.
In its MSA it is below Boston and Dallas for % of its population that is foreign-born. Cities that are obviously below Chicago in importance/scale.
It’s slightly below those MSA’s by like a point. There’s barely any difference. Now in 10 years, there may be more of a gap however considering how Boston is especially growing in foreign born population.
It’s slightly below those MSA’s by like a point. There’s barely any difference. Now in 10 years, there may be more of a gap however considering how Boston is especially growing in foreign born population.
Yea but there is also from my viewpoint less diversity of the foreign-born population and it shouldn't really be in the conversation with Boston for % share when it's at least one tier ahead of it. Chicago has always struck me as an "American" city a la Philadelphia. One that's huge here but maybe isn't as international as some of the expensive "elite/ elitist(?) cities on the coasts (and now Texas)
1. Crazy to see how Miami dominates this, but you certainly feel it when you are here.
2. Crazy to see how low Chicago is. For such an international city for it to be so low is crazy for me. I didn't except it to be top 5-10, but surely somewhere between 11-15.
Not really. 90% of the people are from the same two countries.
International immigration in Texas is mostly these categories:
- laborers from Central America. San Antonio has the lowest cost of labor and is therefore less worthwhile to immigrate to
- educated South Asians, typically working in technology. San Antonio has the smallest white collar and tech employment
- families for someone from above that has become a permanent resident
Houston also gets a another group which is people from oil producing countries, but that probably still pales in comparison to the groups above.
Kinda.
San Antonio and Austin lead the state in domestic migration. International migration is very high in all Texas metros, but this ranking is of documented immigrants. San Antonio has a ton of undocumented people that will never show up official numbers unless I'm mistaken.
I am also surprised by Chicago's lack of international migration. It is anchored by two strong universities and a big international airport with many direct flights too. Housing is also quite cheap compared to other cities of its tier or even cities several tiers below it. And the public transit is the best after NYC.
Compared to Seattle which has a much weaker higher ed system, a regional airport with 3 terminals, limited public transit (although improving), high housing costs, and relative isolation from the rest of America.
I am also surprised by Chicago's lack of international migration. It is anchored by two strong universities and a big international airport with many direct flights too. Housing is also quite cheap compared to other cities of its tier or even cities several tiers below it. And the public transit is the best after NYC.
Compared to Seattle which has a much weaker higher ed system, a regional airport with 3 terminals, limited public transit (although improving), high housing costs, and relative isolation from the rest of America.
Seattle has the tech industry dumping in a massive amount of people from other countries, but in particular India. Additionally Seattle is just growing more, so there is probably more construction proportionally. I bet those two factors are essentially the entire difference.
It’s slightly below those MSA’s by like a point. There’s barely any difference. Now in 10 years, there may be more of a gap however considering how Boston is especially growing in foreign born population.
Big difference is an absolute majority of Chicago Foreign borns are just Mexicans. While most Northeastern cities the top origin is ~10% of the Foreign born population.
Big difference is an absolute majority of Chicago Foreign borns are just Mexicans. While most Northeastern cities the top origin is ~10% of the Foreign born population.
Yep.
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