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View Poll Results: Which is is the fourth city of the Big 4 American cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, ...)
Boston 11 4.10%
Philadelphia 23 8.58%
Washington, DC 88 32.84%
Detroit 2 0.75%
Miami 11 4.10%
Atlanta 4 1.49%
Houston 42 15.67%
Dallas 12 4.48%
San Francisco 70 26.12%
Seattle 5 1.87%
Voters: 268. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-13-2022, 01:52 PM
 
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I would put the SF/San Jose region 4th due to the importance of tech. The internet I'm using, the computer I'm typing on (Intel CPU, Nvidia GPU) a lot of all that developed by engineers in the bay area. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, smartphones (Apple), technology is an important factor in our lives and a lot of that was all done in the bay area.
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Old 04-13-2022, 01:54 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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^^ Another one for the "CSA" Chi-Town. lol
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Old 04-13-2022, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I feel like this is a rehashing of the big 5. Most seem to agree that NYC, LA, Chicago, the Bay Area and DC are the most important cities in America. So I guess this is just trying to pick number 4.
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Old 04-13-2022, 01:59 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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It's not a threat, it's simple addition. LOL

And when we remove taxpayer based economic activity, DC falls to 5th, and is about to be surpassed by Boston, honestly as it should be.

CSA Private Industry GDP, 2020
1 New York-Newark $1.861T
2 Los Angeles-Long Beach $1.113T
3 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland $1.018T
4 Chicago-Naperville $648B
5 Washington-Baltimore-Arlington $623B
6 Boston-Worcester-Providence $608B
7 Dallas-Fort Worth $504B
8 Houston-The Woodlands $451B
9 Philadelphia-Reading-Camden $443B
10 Atlanta-Athens-Sandy Springs $424B
11 Seattle-Tacoma $415B
12 Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale $358B
13 Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor $275B
14 Minneapolis-St Paul $264B
15 Phoenix-Mesa $255B
16 Denver-Aurora $241B
Failing to realize how this helps your argument, when DC-Balt CSA is still top 5 after taking it's important industry way?

Please run the same numbers taking "tech" away from the Bay Area, and lets see where it falls.
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Old 04-13-2022, 02:06 PM
 
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I feel like this is a rehashing of the big 5. Most seem to agree that NYC, LA, Chicago, the Bay Area and DC are the most important cities in America. So I guess this is just trying to pick number 4.
Yeah..I think there is broad consensus around those being the top 5. I might even suggested Chi isn't necessarily 3rd when it comes to being a center of power and influence. It has a broadly diversified economy with good universities, a large futures trading center, and several important corporate HQs. But isn't really a center of innovation like SF, a cultural power house like LA or a national capital.
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Old 04-13-2022, 02:12 PM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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Nope. San Francisco has the nation's 4th largest Metro Area GDP, even though it ranks 13th in population.

2020 GDP
San Francisco MSA $588B
Washington MSA $561B
Dallas MSA $534B
Houston MSA $488B


Go ask San Franciscans Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi, #2 and #3 most important people in your city.


Not for much longer. Pelosi will never have the speaker of the house again come next January. Then there are two more years before the # 2 is removed.
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Old 04-13-2022, 02:26 PM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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Failing to realize how this helps your argument, when DC-Balt CSA is still top 5 after taking it's important industry way?

Please run the same numbers taking "tech" away from the Bay Area, and lets see where it falls.
We should simply take away every city's biggest industry to properly compare them I guess lol.
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Old 04-13-2022, 02:31 PM
 
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It's DC.

DC's CSA, which includes Baltimore, is just under 10 million people. It's already larger than Chicago's CSA and is now ranked 3rd largest.

The rest of the 10 largest CSAs are:

The Bay Area 9.6 million
Boston 8.3 million
Dallas 8.2 million
Houston 7.4 million
Philadelphia 7.2 million
Atlanta 6.9 million
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Old 04-13-2022, 02:40 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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It's DC.

DC's CSA, which includes Baltimore, is just under 10 million people. It's already larger than Chicago's CSA and is now ranked 3rd largest.

The rest of the 10 largest CSAs are:

The Bay Area 9.6 million
Boston 8.3 million
Dallas 8.2 million
Houston 7.4 million
Philadelphia 7.2 million
Atlanta 6.9 million
Yeah if San Francisco gets to tout the whole Bay Area, then DC counts it's entire surroundings as well. Which by 2021 populations are:

1. New York
2. Los Angeles
3. Washington-Baltimore
4. Chicago
5. San Francisco/San Jose

Boston, DFW, Houston and so on.
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Old 04-13-2022, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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It's DC.

DC's CSA, which includes Baltimore, is just under 10 million people. It's already larger than Chicago's CSA and is now ranked 3rd largest.

The rest of the 10 largest CSAs are:

The Bay Area 9.6 million
Boston 8.3 million
Dallas 8.2 million
Houston 7.4 million
Philadelphia 7.2 million
Atlanta 6.9 million
DC doesn’t need Baltimore to make a claim for number 4 and if one must say DC, don’t exclude Baltimore.
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