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Old 05-02-2022, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade View Post
yea there are. All the Milton ones are connected and they abut a Mattapan section of River Street and Lower Mills in Dorchester. They might also touch Hyde Park which has at least 2 touching sections.
Would you say those neighborhoods are Black people in the 20-49 age range or long time Black homeowners in the 50-79 age range? I ask that because the age range shift between DC's 16th Street NW original gold coast and the new gold coast along Pennsylvania Avenue SE shows a shift in age with new Black homeowners moving to the Pennsylvania Avenue SE corridor now and moving forward.

I contemplate where these corridors in cities around the nation are headed over the next decade.


2022 DC Gold Coast (Pennsylvania Avenue SE)
Hill Crest
Population: 1,206
Median Income: $119,861
Black Population: 78%
Age Range: 20-49 (25%), 50-79 (51%)


Penn Branch
Population: 1,918
Median Income: $119,464
Black Population: 74%
Age Range: 20-49 (40%), 50-79 (30%)


Fort Davis Park
Population: 2,535
Median Income: $92,466
Black Population: 93%
Age Range: 20-49 (43%), 50-79 (39%)


Original DC Gold Coast (Eastern Avenue NW 'formerly 16th Street NW')
Colonial Village
Population: 1,998
Median Income: $190,000
Black Population: 65%
Age Range: 20-49 (28%), 50-79 (40%)


Shepard Park
Population: 1,542
Median Income: $169,356
Black Population: 69%
Age Range: 20-49 (27%), 50-79 (42%)


Shepard Park
Population: 1,594
Median Income: $104,821
Black Population: 64%
Age Range: 20-49 (31%), 50-79 (47%)
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Old 05-02-2022, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Would you say those neighborhoods are Black people in the 20-49 age range or long time Black homeowners in the 50-79 age range? I ask that because the age range shift between DC's 16th Street NW original gold coast and the new gold coast along Pennsylvania Avenue SE shows a shift in age with new Black homeowners moving to the Pennsylvania Avenue SE corridor now and moving forward.

I contemplate where these corridors in cities around the nation are headed over the next decade.


2022 DC Gold Coast (Pennsylvania Avenue SE)
Hill Crest
Population: 1,206
Median Income: $119,861
Black Population: 78%
Age Range: 20-49 (25%), 50-79 (51%)


Penn Branch
Population: 1,918
Median Income: $119,464
Black Population: 74%
Age Range: 20-49 (40%), 50-79 (30%)


Fort Davis Park
Population: 2,535
Median Income: $92,466
Black Population: 93%
Age Range: 20-49 (43%), 50-79 (39%)


Original DC Gold Coast (Eastern Avenue NW 'formerly 16th Street NW')
Colonial Village
Population: 1,998
Median Income: $190,000
Black Population: 65%
Age Range: 20-49 (28%), 50-79 (40%)


Shepard Park
Population: 1,542
Median Income: $169,356
Black Population: 69%
Age Range: 20-49 (27%), 50-79 (42%)


Shepard Park
Population: 1,594
Median Income: $104,821
Black Population: 64%
Age Range: 20-49 (31%), 50-79 (47%)
Not going into the data but anecdotally those are family neighborhoods, not really old in feel maybe more so now than when I was a kid and there were tons of teenagers due to the black/Millenial baby boom Boston had in the early 1990s. Younger black singles living mostly deeper in Roxbury, Dorchester, Roslindale, Allston, Jamaica Plain.... either in poorer census tracts or whiter/more diverse census tracts. There are smatterings of young black people in places like Malden, Everett, Chelsea, Quincy, Cambridge, Framingham, Waltham, and Somerville those municipalities range from 6-20% black and are highly diverse racially and ethnically. In some ways black settlement, size and culture can be similar to the Bay Area.
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Old 05-02-2022, 02:47 PM
 
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From what I see it's more of the latter.
Basically, but I believe Oakland also has some areas with a high black percentage and that are middle class as well around the Lake Chabot Golf Course/Chabot Park/Sequoyah Country Club/Oakland Zoo area of the city.

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-2-alameda-ca/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-2-alameda-ca/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-3-alameda-ca/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-3-alameda-ca/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-2-alameda-ca/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-2-alameda-ca/

More lower middle class: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-2-alameda-ca/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-3-alameda-ca/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-2-alameda-ca/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-1-alameda-ca/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-1-alameda-ca/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-3-alameda-ca/

More mixed, but still high percentages: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-2-alameda-ca/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-1-alameda-ca/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-4-alameda-ca/

I'll stop there, but again, it shows that some are still in the traditional areas even if it isn't to the extent that it used to be.
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Old 05-03-2022, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Land of Ill Noise
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^Yes, I think with so much talk of black people leaving California, it is as if people forget that many stay and are doing quite fine.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a corridor in outer SW Chicago around Morgan Park, Beverly, etc. as well.
I'd say it's more the neighborhoods near the lakefront between Bronzeville and Hyde Park, that do have some areas that are surprisingly black middle class to wealthy at times. For example the area just north of Hyde Park(Kenwood? correct me if I got that neighborhood name wrong), is(or at least once was) home to Barack Obama, and also Louis Farrakhan (leader of Nation of Islam church).

Morgan Park does indeed have some black population, that is more upper class. And for South Shore, the Jackson Park Highlands section is much nicer than people might think at first glance.
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Old 05-03-2022, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Here is a streetview of Forestville in Chicago.

2022 Chicago Gold Coast
Forestville
Population: 1,077
Median Income: $169,375
Black Population: 95%
Age Range: 20-49 (39%), 50-79 (25%)


Grand Boulevard
Population: 1,798
Median Income: $76,473
Black Population: 85%
Age Range: 20-49 (50%), 50-79 (23%)


Grand Boulevard
Population: 944
Median Income: $66,417
Black Population: 94%
Age Range: 20-49 (47%), 50-79 (28%)
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Old 05-07-2022, 01:25 AM
 
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It looks like the northern portion of the Edenwald neighborhood in the Northeast Bronx next to SE Mount Vernon, around Strang Avenue in between Edenwald Ave. and East 233rd St. may have a case: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-6-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-1-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-4-bronx-ny/

Some others in that general area of the neighborhood: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-3-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-5-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-1-bronx-ny/

Partially in that area: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-2-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-2-bronx-ny/

In another part of the neighborhood south of Seton Falls Park: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-3-bronx-ny/

Neighborhood map: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ed...!4d-73.8411981

An adjacent block group just outside of the neighborhood to the north: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-2-bronx-ny/

Another one just east of the previous block group: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-1-bronx-ny/

Some others nearby: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-2-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-1-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-1-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-2-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-2-bronx-ny/
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Old 05-07-2022, 07:41 AM
 
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Why not? Are these consecutive along a street, road, or avenue?
Boston is largely not set up like that anyway. Due to its pre-streetcar origins it blossomed around crossroads not down streetcar lines
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Old 05-07-2022, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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It looks like the northern portion of the Edenwald neighborhood in the Northeast Bronx next to SE Mount Vernon, around Strang Avenue in between Edenwald Ave. and East 233rd St. may have a case: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-6-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-1-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-4-bronx-ny/

Some others in that general area of the neighborhood: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-3-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-5-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-1-bronx-ny/

Partially in that area: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-2-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-2-bronx-ny/

In another part of the neighborhood south of Seton Falls Park: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-3-bronx-ny/

Neighborhood map: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ed...!4d-73.8411981

An adjacent block group just outside of the neighborhood to the north: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-2-bronx-ny/

Another one just east of the previous block group: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-1-bronx-ny/

Some others nearby: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-2-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-1-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-1-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-2-bronx-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...up-2-bronx-ny/
WOW! What's going on in this one?

A median income of $236,053?
100% Black?

Very impressive!
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Old 05-07-2022, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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WOW! What's going on in this one?

A median income of $236,053?
100% Black?

Very impressive!
A literal all black neighborhood with that high of a MHHI is unique, but at the same time I can't help but glare at the huge gap with the per capita being $52,000. Not suggesting it's a low amount, but looking at comparable places in my county regarding per capita the MHHI is half of that or less.

Last edited by Chicagoland60426; 05-07-2022 at 01:01 PM..
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Old 05-07-2022, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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How about Chicago?
Jackson Park Highlands

Quote:
Originally Posted by ckhthankgod View Post
I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a corridor in outer SW Chicago around Morgan Park, Beverly, etc. as well.
Most of Morgan Park is a war zone. The nice part of Morgan Park is predominantly white. The part of Beverly and the better-off part of Morgan Park with a notable black population are more mixed-race than black.

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Here is a streetview of Forestville in Chicago.

2022 Chicago Gold Coast
Forestville
Population: 1,077
Median Income: $169,375
Black Population: 95%
Where the hell is "Forestville?"
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