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At first, I was surprised to see Atlanta mentioned as underwhelming, but I can see an argument for this. Atlanta's downtown could use some new towers to fill in the gaps. Seems like Midtown gets most of the attention. Ditto Phoenix...smh.
St. Louis offices aren't very concentrated, even WITH Clayton. Using CoStar data, about 18% of the 145 msf inventory is in greater Downtown, and that only gets to the mid 20s with the West End and Clayton added.
Big skylines tend to be larger percentages. Chicago and Seattle are in the 40% range for their greater downtown areas (being liberal with those). Downtown Bellevue gets the Seattle total to nearly half.
St. Louis offices aren't very concentrated, even WITH Clayton. Using CoStar data, about 18% of the 145 msf inventory is in greater Downtown, and that only gets to the mid 20s with the West End and Clayton added.
Big skylines tend to be larger percentages. Chicago and Seattle are in the 40% range for their greater downtown areas (being liberal with those). Downtown Bellevue gets the Seattle total to nearly half.
Yeah, that makes sense--the inventory downtown is too low. St Louis' skyline is on par with a city like Memphis' skyline.
I'd love to see it grow, but its location and slow growth are not conducive to skyscraper construction in this market.
Yeah, that makes sense--the inventory downtown is too low. St Louis' skyline is on par with a city like Memphis' skyline.
I'd love to see it grow, but its location and slow growth are not conducive to skyscraper construction in this market.
I wonder if those panning STL’s skyline have ever seen aerials that actually do it justice. Are you making a distinction between downtown size and skyline, or are they one and the same? Because at ground level, Memphis and St. Louis are in two different leagues, no comparison. St. Louis has incredible midrise density throughout the central corridor that spans from downtown through Midtown to the CWE to Skinker/DeMun to Clayton. I don’t really know how to post pics on here anymore but if you see photos from the right perspectives it will be obvious. If by “skyline” you mean towers and balance, yeah- STL is pretty underwhelming, but if you’re talking about urban density and massing, STL is definitely a very impressive city, even if it isn’t what it used to be.
Not much in the way of huge skyscrapers, but noticeable skyline infill occurring. Good amount of 300+ ft buildings with a few 400+ and 500+ added. With more on the way…
Good drone video that was uploaded today. Still got infill needed in Downtown, but I think our skyline looks a lot fuller now.
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Niice, Google doesn't really give Dallas skyline justice. Dallas skyline doesn't look impressive until you see Uptown Dallas added to it. Either in Person or another way. Google Dallas Skyline and Google doesn't usually show Uptown. The video above shows about all of Dallas skyline
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Niice, Google doesn't really give Dallas skyline justice. Dallas skyline doesn't look impressive until you see Uptown Dallas added to it. Either in Person or another way. Google Dallas Skyline and Google doesn't usually show Uptown. The video above shows about all of Dallas skyline
Yep, Google doesn’t show it all most of the time. I did just notice that Google Earth finally did some updating. Now, a lot of the Uptown’s high-rises are depicted. This is the first time I’ve ever seen them show the entire skyline. It’s actually pretty cool tbh.
Both Dallas and Atlanta are infilling at a decently fast clip. Both are building a lot of 10 - 30 story mid-rises or so, and building up their density pretty well.
I'd say the top cities with the most mid-rise and skyscraper construction this year are -
Dallas
Atlanta
Austin
Seattle
Los Angeles
Boston
Nashville
Charlotte
Miami
NYC
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