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Old 10-31-2023, 01:56 PM
 
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Baltimore is 225. Staying below DC for raw total for now.

Per 100k Memphis is 41.7/100k and Baltimore is 39.48/100k. Neither are great number at all, and this is with Baltimore having the best year for awhile...
Exactly considering this will be the if not one of the worst years in history for homicides/ murders for Memphis.
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Old 10-31-2023, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Exactly considering this will be the if not one of the worst years in history for homicides/ murders for Memphis.
Baltimore is a substantially larger city so it’s always going to have higher raw totals.
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Old 11-01-2023, 05:44 AM
 
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Baltimore is a substantially larger city so it’s always going to have higher raw totals.
City of Memphis has more people than Baltimore City...

Using 2022 Census numbers:
Memphis = 621,056
Baltimore = 569,931

Memphis city limit is huge anyway.

And in terms of raw total, DC also has more than Baltimore (which actually wasn't even the case for years) but DC also has like 100k more people.

tl;dr: Baltimore is trending the right direction, but sadly there are still way too many homicides/shootings. It doesn't necessarily has that "per 100k bias due to small city limit / population" similar to St. Louis City, NOLA, or Jackson, MS. That being said, the last three are also not...ehh...great.
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Old 11-01-2023, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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As of October 31st:

Buffalo 35 (62 in 2022, down 44%)
- per Buffalo Citistat + news reports

Rochester 47 (66 in 2022, down 29%)
- per RPD Open Data Portal
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Old 11-01-2023, 09:01 AM
 
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DC at 230
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Old 11-01-2023, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Just curious were you saw an update for Cleveland? It's definitely close to 150 now (there was a span of like 9 in two weeks in late September/early October) that was more like the pre-August pace the city was on when it was tracking to finish around 215 to 220.

But I'm still not sure Cleveland is at 150 quite yet. Last I saw was 130 as of September 16. I went through the Cleveland.com archives and counted 15 since then (includes that string I mentioned). That would put it at 145 but I know some were pending so the 150 could be accurate but i hadn't seen anything confirming that.

That two-week flurry ended my longshot optimistic hope that the city could finish around 150. But if things continue to trend like they have been for 11 of the past 13 weeks (1.5 per week), I still think there is a good chance the city ends below the 170 from 2022. That would still be an amazing turnaround considering the total was around 125 in late July.
https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/cr...6-edcde4926e06
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Old 11-01-2023, 09:54 AM
 
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City of Memphis has more people than Baltimore City...

Using 2022 Census numbers:
Memphis = 621,056
Baltimore = 569,931

Memphis city limit is huge anyway.

And in terms of raw total, DC also has more than Baltimore (which actually wasn't even the case for years) but DC also has like 100k more people.

tl;dr: Baltimore is trending the right direction, but sadly there are still way too many homicides/shootings. It doesn't necessarily has that "per 100k bias due to small city limit / population" similar to St. Louis City, NOLA, or Jackson, MS. That being said, the last three are also not...ehh...great.
Memphis is 294 sq/mi.

Baltimore has something like a million people inside the 695 beltway (~200 sq/mi) let alone a Memphis sized area.

DC’s homicide increase is hard to put a finger on as every other Bos-Wash city has gone down.
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Old 11-01-2023, 01:12 PM
 
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Baltimore is 225. Staying below DC for raw total for now.

Per 100k Memphis is 41.7/100k and Baltimore is 39.48/100k. Neither are great number at all, and this is with Baltimore having the best year for awhile...
Of course I always consider NE/ SE DC + inside the beltway of Pg as its own caution area
176 (NE/SE) + around 80 inside the bw would be 256 for around 600k similar to Memphis.
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Old 11-01-2023, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Of course I always consider NE/ SE DC + inside the beltway of Pg as its own caution area
176 (NE/SE) + around 80 inside the bw would be 256 for around 600k similar to Memphis.
DC has almost 2 million inside Capital Beltway in an area still smaller than Memphis proper.

Political boundaries play an insane factor in homicides rates on paper.
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Old 11-01-2023, 02:15 PM
 
Location: 215
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Memphis is 294 sq/mi.

Baltimore has something like a million people inside the 695 beltway (~200 sq/mi) let alone a Memphis sized area.

DC’s homicide increase is hard to put a finger on as every other Bos-Wash city has gone down.
I wonder how different things would look if we broke it down by homicides per square mile.
Comparing 100k across the board to cities with large city limits to small dense/urban cities isn't equal.

100k in Houston isn’t distributed evenly with 100k in Baltimore Baltimore.

I remember the census use to have homicides per census tract however they haven’t updated it since 2015.
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