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still embarrassing because of how far more DC is gentrified than Baltimore
DC has way more public housing than Baltimore. The public housing is not gentrified. It’s alive and well and they’re at war all over the city right now. The people getting killed and doing the killing are overwhelmingly connected to public housing. It’s not random people. If you aren’t connected to public housing residents, life is normal. The only reason we know about every homicide now is social media, but we don’t actually know anybody involved.
Ward 8 has tons of public housing complexes that are at war with each other. There is more public housing in Ward 8 than anywhere else in DC proper. Until they raze them and give the residents housing choice vouchers, these issues will persist. The victims and perpetrators know each other. It’s not random people.
The homicides in Ward 7, Ward 6, Ward 5, and Ward 1 are also from people living in public housing for the most part. The razing and redevelopment of them would change those neighborhoods over night.
Ward 2, Ward 3, and Ward 4 have almost zero public housing which coincides with their homicide rate. Ward 6 and Ward 1 will probably go back to normal next year. The majority of the city doesn’t really have a homicide issue. Ward 5 will get better once Brookland Manor is razed. It’s happening in phases so it will be a while.
So basically tear down the projects, and send the people elsewhere so that they can have gang wars outside of Ward 8. Just put all of them in Ward 2 I guess.
Well, or put them in PG County, what's the number there now?
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3 of the big 4 northeastern cities doing well meanwhile DC is putting on its best Chicago impression.
3 of the big 4 northeastern cities doing well meanwhile DC is putting on its best Chicago impression.
Actually, DCs murder rate is well above Chicagos at this point. Chicago was at 552 homicides as of 11/12. Not great nationally and still a little above 2019 levels. But, that only like 58 percent of DCs levels on per capita basis. Put another way, DCs murder rate is 70 percent higher than Chicago.
Actually, DCs murder rate is well above Chicagos at this point. Chicago was at 552 homicides as of 11/12. Not great nationally and still a little above 2019 levels. But, that only like 58 percent of DCs levels on per capita basis. Put another way, DCs murder rate is 70 percent higher than Chicago.
Murder rate is a political boundary issue. DC at the same land size has a lower murder rate than Chicago. What would be interesting is comparing the area in Chicago with the most murders to East of the River DC. West of the River DC is pretty safe. Especially the urban core.
Murder rate is a political boundary issue. DC at the same land size has a lower murder rate than Chicago. What would be interesting is comparing the area in Chicago with the most murders to East of the River DC. West of the River DC is pretty safe. Especially the urban core.
It actually doesn’t.
Chicago is at ~20/100k right now.
DC “only” has ~2.1 million inside the Capital Beltway which is 326 sq/mi in area for context. In 228 sq/mi it’s closer to 1.7 million. DC + PG county have what? 350-360 homicides so that gives us at rate of +21/100k
DC “only” has ~2.1 million inside the Capital Beltway which is 326 sq/mi in area for context. In 228 sq/mi it’s closer to 1.7 million. DC + PG county have what? 350-360 homicides so that gives us at rate of +21/100k
That depends which direction you go. If you go into Virginia instead of Prince George's county to get 228 sq. miles, it's a fraction of the rate. The DC metro is very segregated and the Anacostia River is a major buffer for homicides.
That depends which direction you go. If you go into Virginia instead of Prince George's county to get 228 sq. miles, it's a fraction of the rate. The DC metro is very segregated and the Anacostia River is a major buffer for homicides.
That 228 sq/mi includes all of Arlington, most of Alexandria, etc.. as well. That being said you could “shift” the boarders of Chicago just as easily north and the same results would happen in regards to homicide rates falling off the map..
That 228 sq/mi includes all of Arlington, most of Alexandria, etc.. as well. That being said you could “shift” the boarders of Chicago just as easily north and the same results would happen in regards to homicide rates falling off the map..
That is really the point though. DC is pretty safe in about 75% of the land mass. I would assume the same for Chicago. Homicides are concentrated in both cities. Do you have a breakdown for Chicago based on areas of the city?
I think DC isn't viewed like Chicago, Baltimore, or Philadelphia because DC is a very educated and polished city. The people have a white collar appearance while those cities have residents that look more blue collar. It creates a different perception.
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