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Old 11-15-2023, 08:16 AM
 
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Too bad NYC had a triple-murder today -- landlord killed three tenants over rent dispute.....smh
Now he a lifelong tenant in jail smh
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Old 11-15-2023, 08:32 AM
 
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DC-243
Pg- 110

So essentially west of the river with 109 has a rate of 22, similar to Atlanta/ Cincinnati
EOTR 134 at 160k has a rate of 83.75 similar to or worse than Jackson, MS

But MDAllstar is right about the public housing the entire SE DC isn't a war zone with several clusters with 0 homicides
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Old 11-15-2023, 09:35 AM
 
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DC-243
Pg- 110

So essentially west of the river with 109 has a rate of 22, similar to Atlanta/ Cincinnati
EOTR 134 at 160k has a rate of 83.75 similar to or worse than Jackson, MS

But MDAllstar is right about the public housing the entire SE DC isn't a war zone with several clusters with 0 homicides
Yep...

https://crimecards.dc.gov/homicides:...citywide:point

Areas like Hillcrest has zero homicide. Then you can see the cluster around Highland Dwellings in Washington Highland, along with public housings in Bellevue neighborhood in far southern DC. Barry Farms area? Same thing. Also prominent in that area in Buzzard Points where a few projects remain - it's literally where all the homicides occurred in an otherwise gentrified area.

Good Hope Road in Anacostia looks like a mess also...and streetview of that area doesn't help perception .

There are exceptions - the U St Corridor around Shaw is quite gentrified, yet it definitely saw a huge jump in homicides (There are what? 8 homicides in like 4 blocks?). Those I would say would cause urban dwellers to be more concern than your "beef" between projects.
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Old 11-15-2023, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Yep...

https://crimecards.dc.gov/homicides:...citywide:point

Areas like Hillcrest has zero homicide. Then you can see the cluster around Highland Dwellings in Washington Highland, along with public housings in Bellevue neighborhood in far southern DC. Barry Farms area? Same thing. Also prominent in that area in Buzzard Points where a few projects remain - it's literally where all the homicides occurred in an otherwise gentrified area.

Good Hope Road in Anacostia looks like a mess also...and streetview of that area doesn't help perception .

There are exceptions - the U St Corridor around Shaw is quite gentrified, yet it definitely saw a huge jump in homicides (There are what? 8 homicides in like 4 blocks?). Those I would say would cause urban dwellers to be more concern than your "beef" between projects.
U Street is a major nightlife destination. The hookah lounges along 9th and U Street attract a crowd that lives in Maryland and the public housing in DC. Their conflicts result in shootings most of the time which explains the homicide count. Also, many times it's just petty beef between teenagers that isn't tied to wars between neighborhoods like this example below:

16-year-old girl fatally stabbed outside Washington, D.C., McDonald's in dispute over sauce
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Old 11-15-2023, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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NYC has gone two individual weeks without a murder, down 12% YOY.

Boston has gone two consecutive 30 day periods without a murder, down 10% YOY.

Philadelphia's murder rate is down 30% YOY

Northeast cities are having a better year this year than last.
All encouraging news; really hoping these trends continue.

Even more critically for Philly, gun violence incidents overall are now beginning to track to pre-pandemic levels, and may even be falling below that (its violence spike really began post-2015 with the rise in "ghost guns," but I digress).
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Old 11-15-2023, 10:10 AM
 
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A city of almost 9 million going a whole week with no homicides is incredible. NYC might be America's safest and best policed city.


Meanwhile you have cities far smaller having multiple homicides in a weekend.
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Old 11-15-2023, 10:14 AM
 
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All encouraging news; really hoping these trends continue.

Even more critically for Philly, gun violence incidents overall are now beginning to track to pre-pandemic levels, and may even be falling below that (its violence spike really began post-2015 with the rise in "ghost guns," but I digress).
It’s very good, I think if Philly, Chicago, Milwaukee and some others didn’t course correct quite quick it would have not only lead to a bunch of unnecessary suffering but also perhaps even a return to the bad old days. With people hesitant to move to the city beyond a few select neighborhoods.

Like Chicago having 860 homicides a year would have been untenable with having a nice livable city
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Old 11-15-2023, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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A city of almost 9 million going a whole week with no homicides is incredible. NYC might be America's safest and best policed city.


Meanwhile you have cities far smaller having multiple homicides in a weekend.
Part of it is policing but it’s mainly stems from incredibly different demographics, culture, income levels, housing/job opportunities, economic, etc… on macro/micro levels.

Comparing NYC to a Detroit, NoLa, Baltimore or heck even Philly & Chicago is like grasping at straws in this context.
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Old 11-15-2023, 12:49 PM
 
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Part of it is policing but it’s mainly stems from incredibly different demographics, culture, income levels, housing/job opportunities, economic, etc… on macro/micro levels.

Comparing NYC to a Detroit, NoLa, Baltimore or heck even Philly & Chicago is like grasping at straws in this context.

Elaborate? Cities like DC, Atlanta, Chicago have PLENTY of job opputuintities. Plenty of housing too. Decent income levels. Yet none of them are touching NYC in safety.
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Old 11-15-2023, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Elaborate? Cities like DC, Atlanta, Chicago have PLENTY of job opputuintities. Plenty of housing too. Decent income levels. Yet none of them are touching NYC in safety.
Local laws, Federal prosecutors, and the Federal court system play the biggest difference between DC and NYC. DC is at the whim of the Federal government and the government wants crime in DC sadly based on their actions.

People who commit crimes in NYC are locked away no questions asked. I think just having an illegal gun in NYC carries a minimum sentence of years.

NY Penal Law § 265.01-b: Criminal possession of a firearm

"Because criminal possession of a firearm is a class E felony, if you are convicted the maximum possible prison sentence that you will receive is 4 years. Your sentence could also include a fine as well as a probation term of 5 years. In determining your sentence the judge will consider a number of factors including your criminal history. If you are a first time offender your sentence will be less severe than if you have a prior criminal history."

DC Gun Penalties

"Misdemeanor gun possession cases do not carry a mandatory minimum penalty. The two misdemeanor gun related possession charges, possession of an unregistered firearm and an unlawful possession of ammunition carry a maximum one-year penalty; but there is no mandatory minimum.

The felony charge of carrying a pistol is a more serious offense with a maximum five years of prison time. This is the legal maximum and does not necessarily mean that a person faces the maximum penalty. It gives someone an idea as to the differences in severity between those two gun laws. The maximum gun penalties in DC depend on the incident the accused was allegedly involved in. For unlawful possession of ammunition or possession of an unregistered firearm, the maximum penalty for each is one year of jail time, a maximum fine of $2,500, or both."


Most of the crimes committed in DC are the perpetrators 3rd and 4th crime in the last few weeks or months. The courts just let them go. If criminals know there are no consequences, they will continue to commit crimes.

Why the D.C. U.S. Federal Attorney declined to prosecute 67% of those arrested - The Washington Post

Republicans Pushing U.S. Attorney For D.C. To Testify At House Hearing On Crime

"House Republicans are demanding the U.S. Attorney for D.C., who prosecutes most violent crime in the city, testify at a congressional hearing later this month on rising crime and recent data showing the federal office has declined to prosecute a majority of cases brought to it by D.C. police."

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