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Elaborate? Cities like DC, Atlanta, Chicago have PLENTY of job opputuintities. Plenty of housing too. Decent income levels. Yet none of them are touching NYC in safety.
There is no equivalent of West Baltimore, North Philly, East DC or Southside Chicago in NYC where you have several hundred thousand people of the same demographic living at or near the poverty line in one "out sourced" geographic area.
When the city did (in the 80-90's), it was have ~2k homicides a year
NYC is substantially more demographically/racially integrated and has comically higher levels international immigration and these factored with it's policing policies and the sheer amount of people and eyes on the street create cultural buffers that simply don't exist in those mentioned cities.
There is no equivalent of West Baltimore, North Philly, East DC or Southside Chicago in NYC where you have several hundred thousand people of the same demographic living at or near the poverty line in one "out sourced" geographic area.
When the city did (in the 80-90's), it was have ~2k homicides a year
NYC is substantially more demographically/racially integrated and has comically higher levels international immigration and these factored with it's policing policies and the sheer amount of people and eyes on the street create cultural buffers that simply don't exist in those mentioned cities.
There is no equivalent of West Baltimore, North Philly, East DC or Southside Chicago in NYC where you have several hundred thousand people of the same demographic living at or near the poverty line in one "out sourced" geographic area.
The Bronx especially South Bronx enters the chat.
Yes, the area cleaned up a lot since the crazy days of 1980s/90s, but to say there's no "concentrated poverty" in NYC, you would be lying to yourselves.
And while it's not in NYC, areas like Newark NJ also had a homicide and crime problems for years. Yes, the homicide number is at a 40 years low (It was like 50 last year, lowest since 1980s), some of it due to the "ethnic succession" phenomenon (i.e. more Hispanic, less African-American, similar to places like Camden NJ and Compton CA).
There is no equivalent of West Baltimore, North Philly, East DC or Southside Chicago in NYC where you have several hundred thousand people of the same demographic living at or near the poverty line in one "out sourced" geographic area.
When the city did (in the 80-90's), it was have ~2k homicides a year
NYC is substantially more demographically/racially integrated and has comically higher levels international immigration and these factored with it's policing policies and the sheer amount of people and eyes on the street create cultural buffers that simply don't exist in those mentioned cities.
This is the most important factor in homicides across US cities. Cities that struggle with homicides have a high population of American descendants of slaves (ADOS) and low population of immigrants. Cities that have a lower population of ADOS with a high population of immigrants have a lower amount of homicides. I don't understand how people are so clueless to the impact American history has played in homicides. America created this problem. NYC and Boston are the perfect examples of this when compared to Philly, Atlanta, Detroit, Baltimore, DC, New Orleans, and Chicago. The culture to kill is born out of oppression.
Immigrants left their countries for the same reason. To escape the culture of oppression and violence in their own countries. American cities are paying for the sins of their fathers.
This is the most important factor in homicides across US cities. Cities that struggle with homicides have a high population of American descendants of slaves (ADOS) and low population of immigrants. Cities that have a lower population of ADOS with a high population of immigrants have a lower amount of homicides. I don't understand how people are so clueless to the impact American history has played in homicides. America created this problem. NYC and Boston are the perfect examples of this when compared to Philly, Atlanta, Detroit, Baltimore, DC, New Orleans, and Chicago. The culture to kill is born out of oppression.
Immigrants left their countries for the same reason. To escape the culture of oppression and violence in their own countries. American cities are paying for the sins of their fathers.
I feel like the strongest argument against this is, well has the culture of oppression gotten 40% worse since 2015?
Cause Chicago used to average ~420 homicides a year in the early 2010s. Now, since 2020 it’s more like 700.
Why is Chicago more dangerous than Paris? Can be explained but in fact the city has gotten less black since 2012 but significantly worse.
^yeah, Chicago's black population has been plummeting (getting replaced by a mass arrival of hispanics and asians) but homicides are still sky high. Explain that.
I feel like the strongest argument against this is, well has the culture of oppression gotten 40% worse since 2015?
Cause Chicago used to average ~420 homicides a year in the early 2010s. Now, since 2020 it’s more like 700.
Why is Chicago more dangerous than Paris? Can be explained but in fact the city has gotten less black since 2012 but significantly worse.
If you’re referring to DC, there is a local reason for the increase:
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Local laws, Federal prosecutors, and the Federal court system play the biggest difference between DC and NYC. DC is at the whim of the Federal government and the government wants crime in DC sadly based on their actions.
People who commit crimes in NYC are locked away no questions asked. I think just having an illegal gun in NYC carries a minimum sentence of years.
"Because criminal possession of a firearm is a class E felony, if you are convicted the maximum possible prison sentence that you will receive is 4 years. Your sentence could also include a fine as well as a probation term of 5 years. In determining your sentence the judge will consider a number of factors including your criminal history. If you are a first time offender your sentence will be less severe than if you have a prior criminal history."
"Misdemeanor gun possession cases do not carry a mandatory minimum penalty. The two misdemeanor gun related possession charges, possession of an unregistered firearm and an unlawful possession of ammunition carry a maximum one-year penalty; but there is no mandatory minimum.
The felony charge of carrying a pistol is a more serious offense with a maximum five years of prison time. This is the legal maximum and does not necessarily mean that a person faces the maximum penalty. It gives someone an idea as to the differences in severity between those two gun laws. The maximum gun penalties in DC depend on the incident the accused was allegedly involved in. For unlawful possession of ammunition or possession of an unregistered firearm, the maximum penalty for each is one year of jail time, a maximum fine of $2,500, or both."
Most of the crimes committed in DC are the perpetrators 3rd and 4th crime in the last few weeks or months. The courts just let them go. If criminals know there are no consequences, they will continue to commit crimes.
"House Republicans are demanding the U.S. Attorney for D.C., who prosecutes most violent crime in the city, testify at a congressional hearing later this month on rising crime and recent data showing the federal office has declined to prosecute a majority of cases brought to it by D.C. police."
^yeah, Chicago's black population has been plummeting (getting replaced by a mass arrival of hispanics and asians) but homicides are still sky high. Explain that.
I think the issues at Chicago are the depopulation of neighborhoods. The more middle class people that move out of neighborhoods, the worse they get.
It looks like Atlanta is at 111 as of the end of last week. Not great, but better than last year and not as bad as DC, Baltimore and so off the other high violent crime cities.
It looks like Atlanta is at 111 as of the end of last week. Not great, but better than last year and not as bad as DC, Baltimore and so off the other high violent crime cities.
Still not bad and the gap has widened to 18% lower than last year, when it was at 142 the same date.
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