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Old 01-09-2024, 03:20 AM
 
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Detroit 252 homicides in 2023 compared to 309 in 2022. 'Detroit ends 2023 with fewest homicides in 57 years': link.
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Old 01-09-2024, 07:59 AM
 
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https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/ar...e-18587240.php

Everybody talking about cities improved in 2023 compared to 2020-22, but MAN! East Palo Alto went from being a literal warzone into having zero homicides in 2023!
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Old 01-10-2024, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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To revise Montreal numbers, the city grew by 95K people between July 2022-2023, the island is probably 100K ish.

31 homicides (33) is roughly 1.4/100K instead of 1.5/100K
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Old 01-11-2024, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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City of Miami once again skewing murder numbers.

Mayor has indicated 31 for all of 2023, however, July 1 to Dec 31 had 27. Which would mean Miami only had 4 between Jan 1 to June 30th... more B.S
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Old 01-11-2024, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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The thing Miami does often, and I saw this for myself when working with the city, is they either

1. Classify certain homicides as "justified"
2. Transfer them from city of Miami police to MDPD, thus artificially reducing their numbers (even though it happened within city limits)
3. They just flat out don't count them

Today's news will put them at 7/100K, which is "low" but they're skweing numbers as usual. They're really at 11-13/100K
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Old 01-11-2024, 07:19 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Detroit 252 homicides in 2023 compared to 309 in 2022. 'Detroit ends 2023 with fewest homicides in 57 years': link.
Detroit is really turning around
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Old 01-13-2024, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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So attaching this just for further proof that Miami is lying about 31 homicides (and just in case Miami boosters think I'm lying/"hating" on the city)

From July 17th to December 31st (that's the furthest I can go back now) the city had 25 murders. They did not include 3 that happened in the last 1-2 weeks of December (28) the July 1-Dec 31 had 27 (30 total). So with the map below and the claims of 31 homicides, that means 1-4 homicides happened in the first six months, which is a lie.

I wish I screenshot Jan 1- June 30, when it showed 25 murders. So clearly, they're hiding how many murders truly happened. Others I personally know believe the same thing and some are going as far to ask the police department and crime mapping orgs to release data/asked for freedom of information requests.


City/Metro homicides 2023-crime.png
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Old 01-13-2024, 01:51 PM
 
Location: NYC, VA, JP
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Detroit is really turning around
Misleading title. It's easy to have the lowest homicide count in 57 years when your population hit its lowest in over a century.
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Old 01-13-2024, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Misleading title. It's easy to have the lowest homicide count in 57 years when your population hit its lowest in over a century.
Population drops by 0.5% to 2% a year. Homocide rates are dropping MUCH faster than the population loss lol
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Old 01-14-2024, 05:34 AM
 
Location: NYC, VA, JP
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Population drops by 0.5% to 2% a year. Homocide rates are dropping MUCH faster than the population loss lol
The murder rate is in the 40 range? That’s typical of Detroit for many decades now.
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