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View Poll Results: Which of These Cities Will Most Likely Boom With Growth, By 2030?
Raleigh, NC 67 44.67%
Tampa, FL 37 24.67%
Jacksonville, FL 24 16.00%
Richmond, VA 18 12.00%
Louisville, KY 5 3.33%
Memphis, TN 3 2.00%
Oklahoma City, OK 10 6.67%
Birmingham, AL 9 6.00%
Salt Lake City, UT 39 26.00%
Greenville, SC 26 17.33%
San Antonio, TX 32 21.33%
Other City? 25 16.67%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 150. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-11-2023, 02:01 PM
 
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really its not.

From "Macro Trends", here is Raleigh NC growth rates.
The current metro area population of Raleigh in 2023 is 1,591,000, a 2.84% increase from 2022.
The metro area population of Raleigh in 2022 was 1,547,000, a 3.27% increase from 2021.
The metro area population of Raleigh in 2021 was 1,498,000, a 3.74% increase from 2020.
The metro area population of Raleigh in 2020 was 1,444,000, a 4.18% increase from 2019.

For the Salt Lake City metro area:
The current metro area population of Salt Lake City in 2023 is 1,203,000, a 0.92% increase from 2022.
The metro area population of Salt Lake City in 2022 was 1,192,000, a 1.02% increase from 2021.
The metro area population of Salt Lake City in 2021 was 1,180,000, a 0.94% increase from 2020.
The metro area population of Salt Lake City in 2020 was 1,169,000, a 0.95% increase from 2019

SLC is growing but boom ...no
Just saying, I have no idea how they calculate their numbers on that site. It lists Birmingham as having a population of 842,000 in 2020. Jefferson (674,721) + Shelby (223,024) would be the bare minimum I could ever see for the metro, and that's still 897,745, notably above the given numbers over there.
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Old 07-11-2023, 02:11 PM
 
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One city/metro NOT on the list but warrants watching the next ten years is Sherman/Denison Texas, about 50 - 55miles north of Dallas. The Metropolitan Statistical Area population is about 140,000. The reason to watch is two huge tech projects under construction:

1. In 2020, Texas Instruments broke ground on at least 2 and possibly 4 chip plants - minimum investment of $15 billion and possibly $30 billion. https://www.ti.com/about-ti/company/...g/sherman.html

2. Taiwan based GlobalWafers selected Sherman in 2022 for a silicon wafer factory. At full build-out, the multi-staged, 3.2 million-square-foot silicon wafer factory will be the largest facility of its kind in the USA and among the largest in the world along with secured abundance of land to support any required further growth. https://www.commerce.gov/news/press-...con-wafer-site

The area has amenities such as two large lakes, a casino in Oklahoma with 30 minutes, lower taxes than the large metros of Texas, lots of affordable land and of course its 45 minutes to an hour from Dallas and it big airport.
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Old 07-11-2023, 02:22 PM
 
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Established population centers of the Intermountain West will keep booming. Spokane, Boise, western Montana, SLC, Denver/CO Front Range, Albuquerque... These places have strong economies, great quality of life, moderate cost of living (esp. compared to coastal cities), amazing scenery/proximity to the outdoors. Most have surprisingly moderate climates. How much these places thrive depends largely on a willingness to embrace change and higher density.
I beg to differ. Lack of water, more isolation, cold weather when growth patterns favor warmer weather. Name a big company this century that's relocated to the Mountain time zone?

I do agree with your statement " How much these places thrive depends largely on a willingness to embrace change and higher density".
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Old 07-11-2023, 02:24 PM
 
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I'm generally skeptical of the "tech from Austin will spillover into San Antonio" idea. That hasn't even happened all that much from the Bay Area to Sacramento, so why would it happen from Austin to San Antonio?? For the most part I don't think the ingredients that fuel Austin's growth exist in San Antonio. SA has been following a different path and I think that will remain the case. Overall that is probably a good thing; there is no need for SA and Austin to be identical twins.
Facts, and the spillover isn't to SA, its been to Dallas-Fort Worth where ATT moved from SA.
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Old 07-11-2023, 02:26 PM
 
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Yeah, Albuquerque is the outlier on that list. And it has relatively high crime. Yet it has a mild climate, abundant sun,and decent cost of living. Though perhaps Santa Fe is a better candidate for future growth.
Neither. ABQ as you said has a crime issue. Higher education is not on the top 100 universities. Water is limited and the area is somewhat isolated.
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Old 07-11-2023, 02:27 PM
 
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I disagree. Spokane is booming.

https://www.krem.com/article/money/e...e-96e5bbc1bec0



It has about the same access to outdoor rec as the other areas you listed, but with a lower COL and a larger metro area (more jobs, better medical care, better airport).
Spokane is going nowhere. Name some major corporations with significant presence there and growing?
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Old 07-11-2023, 02:31 PM
 
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What's the reason everyone's so high on Raleigh? Don't get me wrong, it's a nice city and would be a nice place to live, but Charlotte seems like the real "boomtown" of NC to me. Raleigh seemed more like a city ready to move up a tier and growing rapidly (like most sunbelt cities) but I never got a "boomtown" vibe from it.
Charlotte is heavily reliant on one industry -banking. The only other national name there is Lowe's. It has no major university in its area whereas Raleigh has three - Duke, NC and NC State. Raleigh being the state capital provides a higher floor for continued good economic performance. Last, its part of the Research Triangle and Apple is looking to build an east coast campus.
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Old 07-11-2023, 02:43 PM
 
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The correct answer is San Antonio... it is currently the fastest growing city in America by raw numbers in 2022 and held that position one other time over the last 5 years. Only Phoenix and SA have taken the spot over the last several years. Also I believe tech spillover would be more possible between Austin-SA than Silicon Valley-Sac because the Texas cities are closer at 78 miles away from each other compared to the California cities which are 120 miles away. Currently San Antonio and Austin have overlapping commuter patterns, and are already unofficially functioning as one large CSA with the state preparing for both cities to soon merge into the newest "Metroplex" i,e Dallas-Fort Worth.
"Unofficially" functioning CSA? No its not. I live in Texas and the State isn't preparing. to request such a designation and even so, its the Feds analysis that makes the call. Second, SA/ATX is too far away to be DFW in its commonality. Its 30 minutes without traffic from downtown Dallas to Fort Worth not 80 miles between SA and ATX. DFW has a combined Chamber of Commerce. DFW legally share an airport and road management. The commuting patterns support a DFW not a SA/ATX. And look at newspapers, and local news broadcasting focus. They're totally separate. I give it 2040 for CSA, if then.
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Old 07-11-2023, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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Perhaps Huntsvillle Alabama, due to its high federal government footprint, in the intelligence department especially, and with looming wars overseas. There's going to have to be an increased R&D on how to glean intel from foreign adversaries.
Huntsville meets two of the criteria, but there is no high rise/skyscraper growth and probably won't be in the near future. Most of the jobs are out of the downtown area.

Population and economic growth have both been growing rapidly for the past 5 or 6 years, and apartments are being built at an astounding rate. Single family home construction is well above any other city in the state.
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Old 07-11-2023, 02:44 PM
 
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Just saying, I have no idea how they calculate their numbers on that site. It lists Birmingham as having a population of 842,000 in 2020. Jefferson (674,721) + Shelby (223,024) would be the bare minimum I could ever see for the metro, and that's still 897,745, notably above the given numbers over there.
I lived in Birmingham for 15 months. The city itself is like 300K. Jefferson is more like 700K.
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