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I am outrageously Euro-centric so I hear you loud and clear but going to LA & going to Europe are not mutually exclusive. The one beautiful thing about traveling to me is going for the unknowns, experiencing something you don’t normally see and the varieties of the cultural/landscaping/geographical stimulations.
The American West is one of the most unique, awestruck geophysical façades in the world, it’s worth of exploring and studying.-and I said this as a 1: person who’s not at all outdoorsy, 2: person who’s painfully big city citizen 3: person who’s so Euro-centric that she’s moving to Europe for good. (for the bolded parts you mentioned above.)
I understand not everyone is into driving (me either. I love cars for the aesthetic reasons only.) but as a formerly film study student I saw so many cultural zeitgeist displayed in the American “road movie” genre. It’s very uniquely American, it’s American’s own version of Odyssey, America “ out west” has so much rugged, masculine kind of beauty. L.A is a part of this Western cultural legacy.- I say this again as a person who lived in NYC for 15 yrs and L.A for 10 and is on the way to Europe.
I haven’t been driving since June, 2019 but I think I’ll go watch Thelma & Louise again, partially inspired by responding to your post.
Ive been to the west on several occasion from California to Oregon etc. I made sure to explore and travel the U.S first before I went abroad. Yes the beautiful thing about traveling is leaving the U.S to find more interesting cultures and things to do without having a car. Ive traveled to 62 counties. Although the U.S is a beautiful country it’s hard to do anything without having to drive drive drive drive. Majority of countries I’ve been to from Taiwan vietnam Morocco Lebanon Pakistan etc I never once had to drive. Walked pretty muc everywhere: I like L.A but the commuting is draining sometimes.
It clearly doesn’t blow NYC out in the summer months.
I’m curious to know what makes posters like you think you are entitled to say such things lmao
"Entitled" - LOOOL... You really don't understand the meaning of that word, do you?
See, there's this thing that people have called "opinions." They are oftentimes, but not always, subjective, and can be based upon a number of different factors, including but not limited to: personal experiences, statistics, family, friends, work...etc..etc..
That fancy word opinion applies more than ever when we're in a discussion that involves the comparison of different cities.
This is a very teachable moment, so let's use the word opinion in a sentence below, so you can learn.
"It is my opinion that Chicago is far superior to New York in the summer months, for a varied number of reasons that I don't feel like listing out at this moment."
New York City has 8 beaches. You shouldn’t give an opinion if you aren’t educated in the topic you are discussing.
I’m also curious to know who your geography teacher was. Never new a city that sits on an a literal coast didn’t have beaches.
The New York area does have beaches, yes...but it doesn't have urban beaches like the core of Chicago does.
Imagine lining Midtown Manhattan along the East River with Coney Island, Jones Beach, or Rockaway Beach.
Chicagos' beaches line most of the coastline, starting from the downtown loop and moving northward for several miles. There are also beaches south of the loop, such as Rainbow Beach.
To help put that in perspective for you, that would be akin to Manhattan having multiple beaches starting at Battery Park City, and running north along the Hudson River to just south of the George Washington Bridge.
That's just something New York doesn't have, and it's one of many reasons why myself and so many others find Chicago to be a much better city in the summer months.
As I said, New York does indeed have beaches, but they're rather distant from the core of the city. That train ride to Coney Island ain't a short one...LOOL. The same goes for Orchard Beach in the Bronx. Jones Beach? Enjoy the hour long car ride.
Chicagos' beaches run right along the city skyline. There's nothing like taking a dip in Lake Michigan in the summer with the soaring towers of the Loop, the Gold Coast, or Lincoln park right behind you.
New York? Not so much..lool
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That's just something New York doesn't have, and it's one of many reasons why myself and so many others find Chicago to be a much better city in the summer months.
A much more reasonable opinion statement than "blows NYC out of the water" (I wish people would stop saying that on here).
I still respectfully disagree, (though I enjoy Chicago in the summer).
Also, isn't this thread about most researched summer destinations, why is Chicago the focus?
*Separately, since we all love personal anecdotes,4 friends of my partner from Chicago happen to be in NYC for a summer getaway, lol. 3 nights in the city for activities, then 2 nights in Fire Island.
I mean can you really say Chicago's beaches are a major pro given they're not even ocean beaches. I mean do you think some person from Sweden or Australia is going to travel halfway across the world to hang out on the lake? I don't think foreign visitors who could go anywhere in the world would think that really elevates Chicago in a meaningful sense. It's not like these are world class beaches.
The New York area does have beaches, yes...but it doesn't have urban beaches like the core of Chicago does.
Imagine lining Midtown Manhattan along the East River with Coney Island, Jones Beach, or Rockaway Beach.
Chicagos' beaches line most of the coastline, starting from the downtown loop and moving northward for several miles. There are also beaches south of the loop, such as Rainbow Beach.
To help put that in perspective for you, that would be akin to Manhattan having multiple beaches starting at Battery Park City, and running north along the Hudson River to just south of the George Washington Bridge.
That's just something New York doesn't have, and it's one of many reasons why myself and so many others find Chicago to be a much better city in the summer months.
As I said, New York does indeed have beaches, but they're rather distant from the core of the city. That train ride to Coney Island ain't a short one...LOOL. The same goes for Orchard Beach in the Bronx. Jones Beach? Enjoy the hour long car ride.
Chicagos' beaches run right along the city skyline. There's nothing like taking a dip in Lake Michigan in the summer with the soaring towers of the Loop, the Gold Coast, or Lincoln park right behind you.
New York? Not so much..lool
This is laughable lol a Beach is a Beach no matter where it’s located it’s still apart of the city of NY.. It doesn’t stop hundreds upon thousands of people from going to the beaches here in New York City and surrounding areas. . Depending on where you live at Coney Island is not far and depending on where you live in Chicago, downtown beaches can be far away commuting, especially dealing with traffic for those who have to drive from the suburbs. So yeah, you can dress that crap up about skylines and backdrops to back up your claims that chicago has better summers but that don’t fly. Your international and domestic visitation numbers are poor in comparison to New York City.
Speaking of Coney Island there’s almost 50,000 people living in that area compared to downtown chicago. Where is the amusement park in Chicago beaches? North Avenue beach is the most popular one yet Theres a massive highway running right behind it. We don’t have that problem in New York the train drops us right in front of it. So I could be nit-picky as well.
I’m not going to get into winter tourism because chicago falls in that category to compared to NYC in terms of things to do.
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I mean can you really say Chicago's beaches are a major pro given they're not even ocean beaches. I mean do you think some person from Sweden or Australia is going to travel halfway across the world to hang out on the lake? I don't think foreign visitors who could go anywhere in the world would think that really elevates Chicago in a meaningful sense. It's not like these are world class beaches.
Exactly !!!
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