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Ok, I haven't checked your numbers but you have shown a metric that says that the number of apartments actually getting built in a 9 km radius in Austin is almost identical to Washington DC. And this is despite the fact that a 9 km radius in Austin is mostly trees and grass as opposed to it being concrete in DC. I'm missing how the density of apartment construction in DC is on another level from anywhere.
To be completely fair Austin's apartment construction is at a level that really isn't comparable to any city it's size. I feel like the East side alone could get built out in the next 10 years, if they just handed out the permits. Between 183 and 130 is way to empty for how convenient a commute could be, even with the mediocre schools, you could probably get young families or folks that aren't big on school ratings to move there insanely quickly, rather than the Liberty Hill, Jarrell and Kyle crowd growing like we currently have.
Ok, I haven't checked your numbers but you have shown a metric that says that the number of apartments actually getting built in a 9 km radius in Austin is almost identical to Washington DC. And this is despite the fact that a 9 km radius in Austin is mostly trees and grass as opposed to it being concrete in DC. I'm missing how the density of apartment construction in DC is on another level from anywhere.
Because I only posted DC proper numbers. The 9km radius in DC includes Arlington, Alexandria, and parts of Maryland.
So, DC when adding Arlington, Alexandria, and Maryland within the 9km radius is well over 30K units delivered from 2020-2022. Going by the report out of DC, the city proper delivered 22,741 units within the 61.4 sq. mile city limits from 2020-2022. That is before adding any part of Arlington, Alexandria, or Maryland that fell into that radius. Looking at Austin, how many units built from 2020-2022 would be inside the 9km radius? Is there a report that shows the actual numbers?
Also, your statement about DC being concrete is incorrect. DC has more park land and water in the 9km radius we’re measuring than Austin does. DC has one of the highest park land per capita metrics in the entire country and actually was voted #1 for parks in the nation. It also has an office district and monumental core with almost no people. What area in the 9km radius in Austin would compare to that?
One metric that is apples to oranges is the pipeline within the 9km radius comparison between DC and Austin. DC has 70,794 units in the pipeline without even counting anything in Arlington, Alexandria, or Maryland compared to Austin which has 32,855 units (Planned and Prospective) in the pipeline according to the reports from both cities.
Because I only posted DC proper numbers. The 9km radius in DC includes Arlington, Alexandria, and parts of Maryland. Also, your statement about DC being concrete is incorrect. DC has more park land and water in the 9km radius we’re measuring than Austin does.
DC has one of the highest park land per capita metrics in the entire country and actually was voted #1 for parks in the nation. It also has an office district and monumental core with almost no people. What area in the 9km radius in Austin would compare to that?
Yea and it’s not like trees and park land have ever been a hindrance for progress in Texas
Within the Austin 9km radius compared to the same area in DC? Which area are you referring to in Austin?
All I’m saying is southern states generally won’t allow trees to stand in the way of progress. As far as urbanity, dc blows any Texas city away and has better parks as well.
Yea and it’s not like trees and park land have ever been a hindrance for progress in Texas
I just meant that Austin is almost exclusively zoned for SFHs with strict impervious cover and FAR limits. The intensity of development in areas that allow for significant apartment construction ala Rainey, West Campus, East 6th, etc, is on a completely different level than what you see in DC.
Also, your statement about DC being concrete is incorrect. DC has more park land and water in the 9km radius we’re measuring than Austin does. DC has one of the highest park land per capita metrics in the entire country and actually was voted #1 for parks in the nation. It also has an office district and monumental core with almost no people. What area in the 9km radius in Austin would compare to that?]
You really need to travel more friend. A 9 km radius around Austin is almost entirely leafy suburban neighborhoods full of single family homes with front and back yards. You are not allowed to cover more than 45% of your property with impervious materials. It's not legal to build duplexes, much less apartment buildings, in the vast majority of this 9 km radius.
You really need to travel more friend. A 9 km radius around Austin is almost entirely leafy suburban neighborhoods full of single family homes with front and back yards. You are not allowed to cover more than 45% of your property with impervious materials. It's not legal to build duplexes, much less apartment buildings, in the vast majority of this 9 km radius.
I’m assuming based on what you said, you see the difference in construction between their inner cores?
Austin must be doing something right for so many pages to be dedicated to it in comparison to the 2nd largest city in the NE corridor.
Still not sure why OP is comparing the core of DC to sunbelt cities in Texas of all places.
DC is a lot denser, but the Texas cities are growing a lot faster.
This thread is about NEW apartment construction, not which has the denser core. But OP has yet to provide evidence for the conclusion that an inner 100 sq miles of DC blows out other cities in NEW apartment deliveries. The evidence provided this far, at best shows DC matching those cities in a similar size area, or coming close to matching them.
Austin must be doing something right for so many pages to be dedicated to it in comparison to the 2nd largest city in the NE corridor.
Still not sure why OP is comparing the core of DC to sunbelt cities in Texas of all places.
DC is a lot denser, but the Texas cities are growing a lot faster.
This thread is about NEW apartment construction, not which has the denser core. But OP has yet to provide evidence for the conclusion that an inner 100 sq miles of DC blows out other cities in NEW apartment deliveries. The evidence provided this far, at best shows DC matching those cities in a similar size area, or coming close to matching them.
It’s already been answered. Please see below.
9km radius = 98 sq. miles
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Originally Posted by MDAllstar
Because I only posted DC proper numbers. The 9km radius in DC includes Arlington, Alexandria, and parts of Maryland.
So, DC when adding Arlington, Alexandria, and Maryland within the 9km radius is well over 30K units delivered from 2020-2022. Going by the report out of DC, the city proper delivered 22,741 units within the 61.4 sq. mile city limits from 2020-2022. That is before adding any part of Arlington, Alexandria, or Maryland that fell into that radius. Looking at Austin, how many units built from 2020-2022 would be inside the 9km radius? Is there a report that shows the actual numbers?
Also, your statement about DC being concrete is incorrect. DC has more park land and water in the 9km radius we’re measuring than Austin does. DC has one of the highest park land per capita metrics in the entire country and actually was voted #1 for parks in the nation. It also has an office district and monumental core with almost no people. What area in the 9km radius in Austin would compare to that?
One metric that is apples to oranges is the pipeline within the 9km radius comparison between DC and Austin. DC has 70,794 units in the pipeline without even counting anything in Arlington, Alexandria, or Maryland compared to Austin which has 32,855 units (Planned and Prospective) in the pipeline according to the reports from both cities.
Last edited by MDAllstar; 09-04-2023 at 10:53 AM..
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