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Old 10-20-2023, 10:21 AM
 
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What are the top 5 most affluent predominantly Black (At least 70%) corridors/streets in America within city limits? How would the corridors rank nationally against each other by income?


Criteria
  1. Block Group Median Incomes Along Street
  2. Block Group Black Percentages Along Street (Minimum 70% Black)
  3. Length of Street that is Affluent

I'm thinking the East Capitol Corridor east of the river in DC. A corridor in Queen's NYC. The Sherwood Forest corridor in Detroit. Etc. etc. etc.
Surprised you didn't do the Penn Branch area

http://censusreporter.org/profiles/1...f-columbia-dc/

3614 Highwood Dr SE
https://maps.app.goo.gl/bL1JNrx6A9pFJhDR7
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Old 10-20-2023, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Surprised you didn't do the Penn Branch area

http://censusreporter.org/profiles/1...f-columbia-dc/

3614 Highwood Dr SE
https://maps.app.goo.gl/bL1JNrx6A9pFJhDR7
I was going to, but many of those are lower than 70% Black. The thread kind of evolved anyway to more of a corridor with maybe a 1 mile swing each way from the street. The Penn Branch neighborhood is close enough to East Capitol SE to count within that corridor.

The interesting thing is, there is way more money northeast of Pennsylvania Avenue up to East Capitol St. than south of it where Hill Crest is. I guess the Black professional growth in that part of Ward 7 is higher than many thought.
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Old 10-20-2023, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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La Cienaga in L.A makes a lot of sense as a possible answer, but it goes outside of the city. I’m not familiar with the area but my guess would be from the 405 to Obama Boulevard would be a very wealthy corridor.
I would say more perpendicular to La Cienega along Slauson and Stocker, where the southern portion of La Cienega doesn't really stack up and the northern portion is an oil field and state park and the west bank of La Cienega never became Black as you hit a sundown city (Culver City) where the White Flight line held.. In any case with White folks returning to the area after a 50 year absence it's status as "Black" may not last much longer.

edit: So within city limits, The most affluent areas are across the street south of Stocker, the city limit line towards Slauson is into the unincorporated parts of LA County

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Old 11-23-2023, 07:41 PM
 
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Thats valid- I didnt go there.

The best I saw was the directly abutting nicer parts of Livernois Ave Areas like this

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4354...8192?entry=ttu
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4322...8192?entry=ttu

not bad but it didnt move me at all.

I went to some residential parts like this but not Sherwood Forest.

Given the context clues from the people I knew running a daycare in the area. and what I had seen coming into the place- I assumed it was a formerly middle-class area now lower middle class but not wealthy.

Most of Livernois Ave was this..or worse. Then a Detroit Native vendor I was talking to was bad-mouthing 7 mile so I made assumptions.
Here are parts of Sherwood Forest a block or so east of Livernois: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Dtvc8obwQSQWcAiq7?g_st=ic

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ogAwPHhCZPsnDGBu5?g_st=ic

https://maps.app.goo.gl/E57yuiPrrketL1uk9?g_st=ic

Same for Green Acres a little further north: https://maps.app.goo.gl/KKxivkGqeaVxhBRJ8?g_st=ic

https://maps.app.goo.gl/51rc8r8DnYBwMi7DA?g_st=ic

https://maps.app.goo.gl/yB1YyvTfE9br8oXz7?g_st=ic

For the University District, which is south of 7 Mile: https://maps.app.goo.gl/dFj3BvHLgcTRjxQF7?g_st=ic

https://maps.app.goo.gl/UYQUSeJN64jZxd5W8?g_st=ic

https://maps.app.goo.gl/QXPsLGzERhVZDHDg9?g_st=ic

Even west of Livernois in Garden Homes: https://maps.app.goo.gl/oMdbMM8TvEgyD2586?g_st=ic

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Lyy9n2vETLFit4M79?g_st=ic

and Bagley: https://maps.app.goo.gl/2CaPXSFETWgjGN716?g_st=ic

https://maps.app.goo.gl/PQv3uS7XjLdwvf37A?g_st=ic

https://maps.app.goo.gl/fqHNKSLXYUYyMzQ26?g_st=ic
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Old 11-23-2023, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Land of Ill Noise
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Hard to find a specific street in the city limits where it's concentrated, but Kenwood, Chicago (north of Hyde Park) has a large affluent black population.

Block group, 92% black, $159,609 MHI
Block group, 59% black, $105,938 MHI
I'd say the Bronzeville neighborhood feels pretty affluent, whenever I've been there myself. And to a lesser extent speaking of predominatly black areas, I also like Jackson Park Highlands(a subsection of South Shore neighborhood).
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Old 11-30-2023, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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I'd say the Bronzeville neighborhood feels pretty affluent, whenever I've been there myself. And to a lesser extent speaking of predominatly black areas, I also like Jackson Park Highlands(a subsection of South Shore neighborhood).
I tried to include Bronzeville in Chicago, but it didn't have the concentrated Black wealth the other neighborhoods in other cities have. Is there another area with more Black wealth in Chicago?
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Old 11-30-2023, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Still looking for a 5th city in America to complete this list. Anybody have any suggestions? Is it Boston or Chicago?


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Top five most affluent Black corridors/streets within city limits in America (4 of 5 so far)



#1 = Springfield Blvd. in NYC

Springfield Blvd. = 94% Black with a $107,500 Median Income

Springfield Blvd. = 93% Black with a $101,042 Median Income

Springfield Blvd. = 85% Black with a $107,946 Median Income

Springfield Blvd. = 85% Black with a $108,958 Median Income

Springfield Blvd. = 82% Black with a $125,417 Median Income

Springfield Blvd. = 95% Black with a $115,938 Median Income

Springfield Blvd. = 72% Black with a $121,458 Median Income

Springfield Blvd. = 96% Black with a $92,279 Median Income

Springfield Blvd. = 97% Black with a $87,083 Median Income

Springfield Blvd. = 79% Black with a $93,269 Median Income


# 2 = East Capitol St. SE in DC

East Capitol St. SE = 88% Black with a $107,670 Median Income

East Capitol St. SE = 76% Black with a $120,625 Median Income

East Capitol St. SE = 96% Black with a $110,147 Median Income

East Capitol St. SE = 88% Black with a $101,118 Median Income

East Capitol St. SE = 72% Black with a $125,122 Median Income

East Capitol St. SE = 91% Black with a $98,145 Median Income

East Capitol St. SE = 71% Black with a $96,458 Median Income

East Capitol St. SE = 82% Black with a $92,460 Median Income

East Capitol St. SE = 100% Black with a $87,576 Median Income

East Capitol St. SE = 92% Black with a $83,533 Median Income


#3 = Livernois in Detroit

Sherwood Forest/University District = 73% Black with a $138,125 Median Income

Sherwood Forest/University District = 84% Black with a $127,778 Median Income

Sherwood Forest/University District = 85% Black with a $73,972 Median Income


#4 = Stocker St. in LA

Stocker St. = 77% Black with a $111,048 Median Income

Stocker St. = 87% Black with a $108,998 Median Income

Stocker St. = 82% Black with a $94,934 Median Income

#5 = ???????????
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Old 12-05-2023, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I tried to include Bronzeville in Chicago, but it didn't have the concentrated Black wealth the other neighborhoods in other cities have. Is there another area with more Black wealth in Chicago?
Outside of Bronzeville, I'm not sure where else in the city would have more. I'll take a look though to see if anything comes up.

I know this thread was about city limits specifically, but just as a point of comparison I wanted to throw out a couple dozen census tracts that match the 70%+ black and > 75k median income. This illustrates the extent to which Chicago's black wealth is concentrated in a handful of south suburbs as opposed to the city itself. Groupings are by contiguous area:

Olympia Fields – Matteson – Country Club Hills – Park Forest – Flossmoor – Hazel Crest – Homewood area:
These ones are near the other census tracts but aren’t contiguous due to neighboring tracts either being more mixed, or lower income:

South Holland area:
Individual tracts that met the criteria:
A couple interesting notes / supplemental observations from the data:
  1. This tracks with the suburbs where black homeownership is the highest (NAREB, 2018)
  2. There are some interesting cities across these census tracts that are broadly much lower-income - Park Forest, Dolton, Lansing, Cal City for example. Homewood, Flossmoor, Olympia Fields and Matteson are generally held in higher regard than their peers.
  3. Probably a majority of these suburbs were mostly white as recently as the 1990s. The area within these census tracts has undergone a significant racial transition, but incomes have held steady and in some cases increased.
  4. Northeastern Illinois is the land of tiny municipalities. In a more sensible state they might have been grouped into far fewer cities.
  5. I'm sure the list for suburban Maryland or Atlanta would be even longer.

Again, don't mean to derail the thread here by looping in suburban areas, but it does seem to be the case that: a) many wealthy black families leave Chicago for the southern part of Cook County, and b) those who do stay in the city tend to cluster in places like Bronzeville, Kenwood, and South Shore, though those communities are more economically mixed.

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Old 12-05-2023, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Default Following up...

After some considerable digging... I would like to nominate 95th Street, Chicago in response to this prompt.

95th Street corridor, Chicago - 7 census tracts total within 1/2 mile of a roughly 3.0 mile stretch of 95th Street
8 blocks south of 95th Street captures the following census tract too, although it's slightly past the "1-mile" limit:
Finally, here is a twosome I found in Ashburn on Chicago's far southwest side.

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