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Old 03-14-2012, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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You're actually right, most Palm trees that die off will be replaced with less water thirsty native oaks, hopefully this starts happening soon, I hate Palm trees, imo they're ugly and provide no shade, the only ones I like are in beverly hills
One person's ugly is another person's beauty I love them because they remind me of home. It seems odd to me living where there are no palms!
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:18 PM
 
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Why would they want to replace the palms with oaks? IMHO that's too plain. I think cities like LA and Miami's uniqueness partly comes from the flora they have. Palm Trees aren't that common in the US outside of coastal areas in the Southeast and West-coast, that's why people who aren't from the areas visit these areas and see them as a big deal. Why would you replace them with one of the most common, widely distributed, everyday plants like an Oak tree? Palms(depending on which type) are still somewhat exotic. Oak's don't really catch anyone's eye, because they're so common.
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Why would they want to replace the palms with oaks? IMHO that's too plain. I think cities like LA and Miami's uniqueness partly comes from the flora they have. Palm Trees aren't that common in the US outside of coastal areas in the Southeast and West-coast, that's why people who aren't from the areas visit these areas and see them as a big deal. Why would you replace them with one of the most common, widely distributed, everyday plants like an Oak tree? Palms(depending on which type) are still somewhat exotic. Oak's don't really catch anyone's eye, because they're so common.
I think some of the palms should be replaced but in some of the less fancy neighborhoods the palm trees look pretty depressing really. The ones in my neighborhood (other than on Hollywood Blvd, which doesn't have a ton) are pretty nasty. It also sucks in the summer to walk sometimes because the summer sun in LA is brutal, and palms really provide no shade, especially on residential streets with setbacks.
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:33 PM
 
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I think some of the palms should be replaced but in some of the less fancy neighborhoods the palm trees look pretty depressing really. The ones in my neighborhood (other than on Hollywood Blvd, which doesn't have a ton) are pretty nasty. It also sucks in the summer to walk sometimes because the summer sun in LA is brutal, and palms really provide no shade, especially on residential streets with setbacks.
But Oaks? Palms have become a staple of LA's image.
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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But Oaks? Palms have become a staple of LA's image.
Yeah, oaks are a bit bland but really are more native to the area than palms are.
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Old 03-15-2013, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I can't believe people put pics of Jersey Shore temporary palms on here but not of Hawaii, King of Palms!:
Honolulu: https://www.google.com/search?q=hono...toGADQ#imgrc=_
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Why would they want to replace the palms with oaks? IMHO that's too plain. I think cities like LA and Miami's uniqueness partly comes from the flora they have. Palm Trees aren't that common in the US outside of coastal areas in the Southeast and West-coast, that's why people who aren't from the areas visit these areas and see them as a big deal. Why would you replace them with one of the most common, widely distributed, everyday plants like an Oak tree? Palms(depending on which type) are still somewhat exotic. Oak's don't really catch anyone's eye, because they're so common.
LA is replacing palm trees (mostly Mexican Fans) with oak trees because palm trees don't do diddly squat to provide shade or filter the air while oak trees filter ozone pollutants very, very well.

The Mexican Fan is now considered an invasive weed in Southern California. Funny because 100 years ago they planted thousands of them for the 1932 Olympics. They reproduce faster than almost anything else in the region & can grow almost anywhere a seed drops or is dispersed by animals or wind. I've seen pictures of them literally growing in sidewalk cracks & sewage drains.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/us/26palm.html?_r=0

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Old 03-15-2013, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Phoenix Arizona
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In the Kofa Mts. in southeast Arizona there's native palms growing in some of the canyons there. There planted all over Phoenix and Tucson but the Kofa's are their habitat.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:43 PM
 
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LA is replacing palm trees (mostly Mexican Fans) with oak trees because palm trees don't do diddly squat to provide shade or filter the air while oak trees filter ozone pollutants very, very well.

The Mexican Fan is now considered an invasive weed in Southern California. Funny because 100 years ago they planted thousands of them for the 1932 Olympics. They reproduce faster than almost anything else in the region & can grow almost anywhere a seed drops or is dispersed by animals or wind. I've seen pictures of them literally growing in sidewalk cracks & sewage drains.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/us/26palm.html?_r=0
Screw the shade. Folks have survived this long in LA without it. It's not like folks are dropping like flies in that coastal CA climate. They may be better for the Ozone, but Palms aren't any worse. I mean, I figured if the air is THAT bad, planting some oaks isn't gonna reverse the trend. LA's messing up with this one. Don't bump what made you famous.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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The summers are warm in LA, not hot, and it's not muggy either. There's no real need for shade. Most people there welcome the sun because of the chilly breeze off the ocean, and the foggy, cool nights. Also, palm trees do indeed filter the air. All trees do.
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