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Old 02-12-2009, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Dorchester
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Where was America born?
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:23 PM
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Philadelphia, 1776.
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Old 02-12-2009, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Dorchester
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The reason I asked was that I was reading the '15 coolest cities to visit' article and the description for Philadelphia said "The birthplace of the American Revolution and American Independence".

I always thought that was Boston.
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Old 02-12-2009, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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I say Philly. Boston played a huge role in the revolution and shaping of the colonies, but the United States and our government as we know it was certainly started in Philadelphia.

New Amsterdam played a huge role as well.
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Old 02-12-2009, 02:04 PM
 
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I'd say Philadelphia as well, since that's where the first congress convened and where the declaration of independence was signed, but the revolutionary war itself started in Lexington MA. I think both locations could have a legit claim to the title.
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Old 02-12-2009, 04:41 PM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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The United States never would have existed without the people of Boston. On the other hand, the declaration could have been signed just about anywhere.

The US was born in what is now the suburbs of Boston
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Old 02-12-2009, 06:39 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Where was America born?
Philadelphia

Boston - (or actually eastern Massachusetts) started a revolution, "The shot heard around the world".

Philadelphia - where that revolution spread across a continent (and thus survived) and where a new nation of independent states & a free republic was born.
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Old 02-12-2009, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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This is actually a fun topic. I'm really curious to hear what people from outside either area (and who have no ties to either) think.

I'd LOVE to say Boston and I think Boston (the 'burbs, really) played a HUGE role, but I really think that Philly's was a little more prominent in the country's FOUNDATION while Boston may have been a little more important in providing the spark that got the whole thing started. Overall, I still say Philly's role in the foundation of the government puts it over the top. Anyone can shoot a gun, but it takes more than that to start a nation and that's what happened in Philly.

Needless to say, Boston and Philly couldn't have done what they did without the other, but I have to give the nod to Philly.
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Old 02-12-2009, 07:09 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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This is actually a fun topic. I'm really curious to hear what people from outside either area (and who have no ties to either) think.

I'd LOVE to say Boston and I think Boston (the 'burbs, really) played a HUGE role, but I really think that Philly's was a little more prominent in the country's FOUNDATION while Boston may have been a little more important in providing the spark that got the whole thing started. Overall, I still say Philly's role in the foundation of the government puts it over the top. Anyone can shoot a gun, but it takes more than that to start a nation and that's what happened in Philly.

Needless to say, Boston and Philly couldn't have done what they did without the other, but I have to give the nod to Philly.

Rate up for being fair to Philadelphia!
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Old 02-13-2009, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Dorchester
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This is actually a fun topic. I'm really curious to hear what people from outside either area (and who have no ties to either) think.

I'd LOVE to say Boston and I think Boston (the 'burbs, really) played a HUGE role, but I really think that Philly's was a little more prominent in the country's FOUNDATION while Boston may have been a little more important in providing the spark that got the whole thing started. Overall, I still say Philly's role in the foundation of the government puts it over the top. Anyone can shoot a gun, but it takes more than that to start a nation and that's what happened in Philly.

Needless to say, Boston and Philly couldn't have done what they did without the other, but I have to give the nod to Philly.
The problem I have with this is that I really think that the government in Philly only followed what the people in Boston were doing.
John Adams, who I believe is the undisputed father of this country, came to Philly with the ideas of Independence and had to convince the other delegates of these ideas.
The entire nation was looking at Boston and saying "Holy Crap what is going on up there?"
This is even proved by British strategy at the time.
The first strategy the British used was to occupy Boston.
When they were forced to evacuate Boston they then tried to isolate New England by going up the Hudson.
By doing this they believed they were cutting the head off the snake.
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