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^^ But is true that most people that tend to live in the downtown of Chicago seem to have a car. More so than people that live in Manhattan for example. I see lots of parking garages with buildings on top. In Manhattan they don't built those. New Yorkers relay more on public transportation than people in Chicago. So it is fair to say that new population of Chicago like to live like they did in the suburbs. Drive to get somewhere. Where New Yorkers will take the train for long distances more often.
So what? Cleveland has 12,000 less people per square mile then NYC, and more people drive cars.. would you consider Cleveland suburban? If so, I am signing off this site because I will get an aneurysm from the stupidity.
By your standards, only cities with 20,000+ people per sq. mile and no cars = urban.. then there are only like 3 urban cities in America
WeSoHood, no one is saying that Chicago is a giant suburb; what people are saying is that Chicago is not comparable to NYC because of its (comparative) auto orientation and differences in land use and density.
Detroit is urban. This is a fact. Is it comparable to Chicago? Hell, no.
Similarly, Chicago is urban. This is a fact. Is it comparable to NYC? Hell, no.
So what? Cleveland has 12,000 less people per square mile then NYC, and more people drive cars.. would you consider Cleveland suburban? If so, I am signing off this site because I will get an aneurysm from the stupidity.
By your standards, only cities with 20,000+ people per sq. mile and no cars = urban.. then there are only like 3 urban cities in America
Nah man there would only be 1 urban city. So if ur city is not >20,000 then u suck. This whole thread is just wack and its just a breedin ground for trolls. How the heck did this thread come back to life anyway. Signing off
Around 48% of New Yorkers own cars, yet fewer than 30% use them to commute to work, most finding public transportation cheaper and more convenient for that purpose, due in large part to traffic congestion which also slows buses.
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Mass transit use and car ownership
New York City is distinguished from other cities in the United States by its significant use of public transportation. New York City has, by far, the highest rate of public transportation use of any American city, with 54.2% of workers commuting to work by this means in 2006.[4] About one in every three users of mass transit in the United States and two-thirds of the nation's rail riders live in New York City or its suburbs.[5] New York is the only city in the United States where over half of all households do not own a car (Manhattan's non-ownership is even higher - around 75%; nationally, the rate is 8%).[6]
Percentage of workers using public transportation for their commute and the mean travel time for major cities in the United States in 2006
New York City also has the longest mean travel time for commuters (39 minutes) among major U.S. cities.[7]
This is a measure of how many New Yorkers (read: individuals, including presumably the 2 million New Yorkers who are minors). What Osito claimed is that most households in New York do not have a car, which is evidently not the case.
lol where ya get those stats from, its a known fact in new york that over 50% of us dont use cars. The best transit system in the world, is it that hard to understand
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