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Old 09-14-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Which area has the greater upside for redevelopment?
Which will change the most over the next 10 years?
Which area do you prefer now the most?
Which area is the most dangerous?
Best transit access current and in the future?
Best architecture?
Which area has the best prospects for economic growth?

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Old 09-14-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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It's hard to root for any of these areas. Given all the redev in Philly right now (focus being on CC and UP) I'm going to side with North Philly, but, yeah I don't hold out much hope..
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:00 PM
 
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Well not sure North philly can get any worse

Probably SE DC so long as the Govt engine keeps going even at a modest level for the most development in the next 10 years and most economic growth.

North Philly is in the worst shape of the 3 today (all better than they were in the 80s for sure). Also North Philly has quite a few areas getting better but is also more than half the size of either DC or Bsotn on the whole and so much more blight on the whole to deal with. N Philly is changing one nabe at a time and wont be nearly fixed in 10 years if ever.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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Dorchester/mattapan issues aren't a severe as north Philly and southeast.

Not a lot of blight and for the most pArt it's filled with west Indian immigrants who are mostly working class.

I think Hartford would have been a better third choice.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Well not sure North philly can get any worse

Probably SE DC so long as the Govt engine keeps going even at a modest level for the most development in the next 10 years and most economic growth.

North Philly is in the worst shape of the 3 today (all better than they were in the 80s for sure). Also North Philly has quite a few areas getting better but is also more than half the size of either DC or Bsotn on the whole and so much more blight on the whole to deal with. N Philly is changing one nabe at a time and wont be nearly fixed in 10 years if ever.

I thought there was a lot of redevelopment going on in some area's of North Philly like Poplar for instance?
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Dorchester/mattapan issues aren't a severe as north Philly and southeast.

Not a lot of blight and for the most pArt it's filled with west Indian immigrants who are mostly working class.

I think Hartford would have been a better third choice.
True, but I wanted to stick to the big Bos-Wash cities for this comparison. Hartford doesn't have the advantages major cities have in redevelopment economically so the comparison would not have been fair.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:14 PM
 
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True, but I wanted to stick to the big Bos-Wash cities for this comparison. Hartford doesn't have the advantages major cities have in redevelopment economically so the comparison would not have been fair.
Yea I kind of figured that.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:18 PM
 
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I thought there was a lot of redevelopment going on in some area's of North Philly like Poplar for instance?

yeah there is but North Philly include like 400+K residents and there are two bad nabes for every on getting better so on the whole a long long way to go.


If you Take Temple plus areas South of Girard maybe you could say that area has some real potential and with 140K residents may better compare in size.

Mostly North of Girard has many issues to face and ten years isnt enough time, there is no Govt Agency driving (directly or indirectly) redevelopment monies here, its all gotta be organic and not subsidized.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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yeah there is but North Philly include like 400+K residents and there are two bad nabes for every on getting better so on the whole a long long way to go.


If you Take Temple plus areas South of Girard maybe you could say that area has some real potential and with 140K residents may better compare in size.

Mostly North of Girard has many issues to face and ten years isnt enough time, there is no Govt Agency driving (directly or indirectly) redevelopment monies here, its all gotta be organic and not subsidized.

I should have changed the area to reflect just lower north Philly which may be a better comparison. Also, better access to Center City will allow development to push north. Hope VI Grants?

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Old 09-14-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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Yea I kind of figured that.

I think Baltimore's east section is a much better comparison here, I should have switched it with Boston.
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