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Old 06-18-2009, 01:51 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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But the quote in the OP sad Sydney was the better "brand". If that were the case, people would exploit the brand name of Sydney, but they don't. Same for L.A. over San Francisco. The more popular brands are going to naturally have more complaints because there is more discussion about them because they're more popular and well-known and therefore more valuable brands.

I hear more complaints about McDonald's than In-N-Out Burger, but McDonald's is clearly the more valuable "brand". Even though their burgers aren't as good.
Well, this is about perception and having traveled the world, I can assure you that Sydney and San Francisco are very well known cities. From The depths of Africa to Siberia, people generally know something about SF. Usually something positive.

Also, now that I think about it, Sydney's Opera House and the Golden Gate Bridge are up there with the Eiffel Tower and the Statue of Liberty as world famous icons.
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:25 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Well, this is about perception and having traveled the world, I can assure you that Sydney and San Francisco are very well known cities. From The depths of Africa to Siberia, people generally know something about SF. Usually something positive.

Also, now that I think about it, Sydney's Opera House and the Golden Gate Bridge are up there with the Eiffel Tower and the Statue of Liberty as world famous icons.
Again, you're getting away from the fact that this is about the cities' "brand". The Sydney "brand" is not as popular or widely used as NY or L.A., and neither is San Francisco.

I never said that Sydney and San Francisco aren't very well known cities. I know that they are. But they're not "brands" that are as popular as NY or L.A.

Do a business search for any city and you'll find that many businesses use "New York" for their "brand", but almost none use "Sydney". New York Hair, New York Nails, New York Dentistry, New York Xpress Clothing...these are just a few businesses I found listed for London, UK. But nothing for Sydney except "Sydney House", which isn't even clearly named for the city but could be someone's name.

L.A. brought up L.A. Limousine and L.A. Fitness as a couple businesses in London. San Francisco didn't even come up.

Face it - NY and L.A. are internationally know to be two of the best "brands" which is why people ACTUALLY USE them in naming their businesses. L.A. has an image of Hollywood and glamour so you'll find L.A. limousines and fitness and tanning. NY has an image of being a fashion and arts and economic and culinary center, so you'll find NY Pizza, NY Fashions, NY Hair, etc. all over.

San Francisco and Sydney aren't really so strongly identified with anything that they're used often or at all as "brands". That's not saying they're not known internationally, that's just saying that as "brands" they're very obviously not as valuable as NY or L.A.
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:31 AM
 
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This thread is just another shameless opportunity for 18Montclair to remind everybody that the San Francisco Bay Area is superior to all other regions and how we should be envious of those fortunate enough to live there. Does that about sum it up?

lol...thats the Chic/Milwa/Midwest jealousy of SF coming into play again...

we know Chic is a "bigger city but in the U.S it is #3 or 4 along with DC
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Again, you're getting away from the fact that this is about the cities' "brand".
Again, you're getting away from the fact that this is about what 'cities brand' means. It revolves around how cities are viewed and the perception people have of them. Their reputation.

Sydney is seen in a more favorable light than New York-such is life.

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I never said that Sydney and San Francisco aren't very well known cities. I know that they are. But they're not "brands" that are as popular as NY or L.A.
Apparently they are.

Have you ever been to Europe? Tell them youre from the SF Bay Area and you almost always get a positive response. Apparently many people have left their hearts there.
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:54 AM
 
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This is just another popularity contest just like some other polls out there. However, at the end of the day, you're still a beta city.

I am not too surprised about the results.

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lol...thats the Chic/Milwa/Midwest jealousy of SF coming into play again...

we know Chic is a "bigger city but in the U.S it is #3 or 4 along with DC
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Old 06-18-2009, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Dorchester
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Also, now that I think about it, Sydney's Opera House and the Golden Gate Bridge are up there with the Eiffel Tower and the Statue of Liberty as world famous icons.
But only one of those icons averages 1 suicide attempt every 2 weeks
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Old 06-18-2009, 11:51 AM
 
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But only one of those icons averages 1 suicide attempt every 2 weeks
and that's suppose to make it less of an icon in what way?




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Old 06-18-2009, 10:00 PM
 
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and that's suppose to make it less of an icon in what way?




I believe that actually makes it more iconic. If people are opting to have their last moment in life there that often, that can only mean that they consider it symbolic.
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:05 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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Anyways that list is a joke. I mean come on sydney? lol. Being over ny and la
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Anyways that list is a joke. I mean come on sydney? lol. Being over ny and la
Sometimes we Americans can be so arrogant.

There is an entire world out there that doesnt revolve around us nearly as much as we'd like to think.
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