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So what should we do with Atlanta's large Hispanic population? Does that mean that Atlanta isn't "southern"? How about Atlanta's large Korean and African populations?
I realize Atlanta has a large Korean and African population, but comparing them to Dallas' Latin population is a bit absurd. Latinos make up about a third of Dallas, Korean and Africans dont make up near that much of Atlanta.
Not to mention that Dallas' Asian population is larger than Atlanta's, so if its a disqualifiying characteristic for Atlanta, it sure is for Dallas. However, Atlanta's african community is huge.
I realize Atlanta has a large Korean and African population, but comparing them to Dallas' Latin population is a bit absurd. Latinos make up about a third of Dallas, Korean and Africans dont make up near that much of Atlanta.
Not to mention that Dallas' Asian population is larger than Atlanta's, so if its a disqualifiying characteristic for Atlanta, it sure is for Dallas. However, Atlanta's african community is huge.
I didn't realize I compared them to Dallas. I'm pretty sure I didn't. All I said was...if the Hispanic population of Dallas makes it less southern, then what effect do the different international populations of Atlanta have on it's southern-ness?
It's not a comparison in this case, but a valid question. I don't feel like having a large international population necessarily takes away from the southern-ness of a city.
Dallas has too large a percent of Hispanic residents to be "truly" Southern. By definition the South is made up of Whites of British Isles descent and African Americans.
That's ridiculous. What definition says that?
Historically, yes, the south was black and white. And Dallas was also historically black and white.
I didn't realize I compared them to Dallas. I'm pretty sure I didn't. All I said was...if the Hispanic population of Dallas makes it less southern, then what effect do the different international populations of Atlanta have on it's southern-ness?
It's not a comparison in this case, but a valid question. I don't feel like having a large international population necessarily takes away from the southern-ness of a city.
You're absolutely right. It doesn't affect Dallas' southernness anymore than Chicago's large Mexican population makes it less Midwestern or New York's large Latino population makes it less East Coast.
Mexicans in Houston and Dallas are NOT the same thing as Mexicans in Arizona or New Mexico.
You're absolutely right. It doesn't affect Dallas' southernness anymore than Chicago's large Mexican population makes it less Midwestern or New York's large Latino population makes it less East Coast.
Mexicans in Houston and Dallas are NOT the same thing as Mexicans in Arizona or New Mexico.
You got it...that's exactly what I was saying. I wasn't comparing the hispanic population in Dallas to that of Atlanta.
Dallas has too large a percent of Hispanic residents to be "truly" Southern. By definition the South is made up of Whites of British Isles descent and African Americans.
The qualifying point (and I say this as one who believes Atlanta is more "Southern" than Dallas), is that the hispanic population is a relatively new influence. Historically, Dallas is Southern...with its roots in the Anglo/Black duality. The shimmering towers and cospopolitan atmosphere of the city today is not indicitive of what it sprang from originally. Get into parts of old Dallas, and one wouldn't know they were not in Mississippi (save that pine trees are not so noticeable!~ LOL).
The qualifying point (and I say this as one who believes Atlanta is more "Southern" than Dallas), is that the hispanic population is a relatively new influence. Historically, Dallas is Southern...with its roots in the Anglo/Black duality. The shimmering towers and cospopolitan atmosphere of the city today is not indicitive of what it sprang from originally. Get into parts of old Dallas, and one wouldn't know they were not in Mississippi (save that pine trees are not so noticeable!~ LOL).
I think Atlanta is more southern than Dallas too...but I don't think that a considerable international population takes away from the southern-ness of either city, nor do I think a cosmopolitan atmosphere or shiny skyline makes either city less southern. I know you weren't saying that, but those are usually points that people make when discussing why a certain area of the country IS NOT in the South.
I guess the north must of annexed Dallas. I've noticed people in the DFW region get highly offensive when you compare them to other parts of Texas. It's sometime almost as bad the Austitude. However, they are easily the most "Texasish" major city in Texas. Well, after Fort Worth.
So true. That metro is the epitome, of stereotypical Texan culture.(cowboys, Walker Texas Ranger, The Dallas Cowboys, etc, etc).
And I have yet to hear a good reason for the claim that Atlanta is more southern than Dallas.
I will say that southernness in Atlanta is more concentrated, but not more southern.
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I wasn't comparing the hispanic population in Dallas to that of Atlanta.
