Can the USA make it without California and New York City? (best, state)
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I don't think anyone here is putting stock into anything, just merely stating what they found interesting. I heard this British woman once say something like, "Wow America, I'm glad to finally call you my ally. You've finally joined the rest of the world." Whatever that's supposed to mean.
Yes, lots of people notice how Europeans love Obama. The media especially makes note about it. I assume that they feel they can relate to him, while some Americans feel that he is not relating to the people of his country.
Of course the US would make it. NYC and California are important, but if they were gone, cities like Boston, Philadelphia, Miami, Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Chicago, etc would have probably took their spot.
Of course the US would make it. NYC and California are important, but if they were gone, cities like Boston, Philadelphia, Miami, Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Chicago, etc would have probably took their spot.
California and New York City simply seceding would be manageable because the economic ramifications would be less damaging.
The financial infrastructure in NYC would continue to be the most mportant to the US, even though its not part if the US. I would expect NYC woulf become like Hong Kong which is somewhat autonomous from China, except NYC would be totally independent, like Singapore or Monaco.
As far as Silicon Valley, its highly simplistic and unrealistic to say that Seattle or somewhere else will simply 'take over', especually if SV is still present. Its corporations and innovation arent going anywhere. They dont really need to. Suddenly the internet is no longer controlled by US concerns. Imagine 200 million Americans' email accounts, social media and hand held devices ALL now managed from a foreign country. Almost sounds like a national security issue, no?
California would instantly have friends in China, India, Russia, Latin America and Europe. Imagine the cross border scandal if California was enticed to join BRICS?
Between NYC and Silicon Valley, by far the 2 largest concentrations of global investment in the present day US, that deals a huge blow to the US' status as the dominant superpower of the world.
And that's just a very small taste of how the world would change.
And if NYC and California were taken out by natural catastrophe or aliens or whatever, I think that would be more difficult to recover from in the beginning. Some US haters migh view this vulnerability as an opportunity to strike against the US.
And note to TX: they hated u when u were 2nd, now its gonna be worse as number 1. Lol
US would be fine. Finances would take a hit, but the brunt could be taken up by other financial areas. Government, Military, Ag/Commodities, Energy would be stable. Technology/Innovation would be hit, some im sure could be absorbed in other areas of the US, but there may be a higher reliance on other countries.
California has 52% of the population and 55% of the economy of the entire western United States (including Alaska and Hawaii). By contrast, the New York City CSA has only 16% of the population and 19% of the GDP of the entire eastern United States. California absolutely dominates the western U.S. This is because most states in the western U.S. have very small populations and economies compared to states in the eastern U.S.
Therefore, losing California would be FAR more dramatic and devastating, relative to its respective part of the country, compared to losing New York City would be.
Last edited by BigCityDreamer; 04-23-2013 at 10:53 AM..
NYC can have the dollar and their financial infrastructure so long as we can remove ourselves from it completely and start fresh with our own currency and economy.
NYC can have the dollar and their financial infrastructure so long as we can remove ourselves from it completely and start fresh with our own currency and economy.
Speaking of which, with NYC and California gone, Im thinking that the country swings more red and the South I think will have roughly half of the population and GDP.
So the new power center of the country will be the South and their lead will be increasing fast since they are the fastest growing part of the country anyway.
Speaking of which, with NYC and California gone, Im thinking that the country swings more red and the South I think will have roughly half of the population and GDP.
So the new power center of the country will be the South and their lead will be increasing fast since they are the fastest growing part of the country anyway.
You'd be surprised. Most of the large population centers in the South are blue anyhow and some states such as North Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, Florida, Georgia, etc. are increasingly blue. New England and The Mid-Atlantic are arguably the most progressive parts of the country. Not to mention The Pacific Northwest and places like Minneapolis, Chicago, etc. The population growth and GDP trends have everything to do with the unstable and semi-fradulent financial system in NYC-something that we will no longer be responsible for figuring out. I don't know if the rest of the country would form one nation to be honest. Without the US Dollar and financial system keeping us together economies would form to be more regional, effective and beneficial to the local market they serve.
Last edited by 2e1m5a; 04-23-2013 at 12:34 PM..
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