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Omaha is nicer, seems more modern, yet still has a nice stock of historic buildings, has more recreation (urban parks and bike trails) and a more lively downtown/old market, seems to have less crime, feels more dense, has a few solid attractions including one of the country's best zoos and the suburbs of Omaha seem a little nicer.
I like Tulsa's arena and some of the urban neighborhoods along the river, but that Oral Roberts campus is just weird.
Both are midwestern (are people confused about this or something?).
I am confused about Tulsa. It seems to have a midwestern influence, but it also has a strong southern influence. Not having spent any real time in OKC, I tend to wonder if it might be even more midwestern or at least less southern than Tulsa. But then OKC may have more in common with Wichita, Amarillo and Colorado Springs for all I know.
As for Omaha VS Tulsa - I've spent time in both and I like Tulsa better and could be right at home in one of the neighborhoods south of downtown, or even on 10 acres north/northeast of Tulsa - land down there is really cheap. I really like Riverside Dr and the trails. And really like the topography. Omaha has nothing on Tulsa in that regard. Plus all the lakes surrounding Tulsa and being a short drive from multiple mountainous areas. Culturally, Omaha is not enough of a change from Kansas City to make it worth it - it's just smaller, plus it's further north.
Omaha/Council Bluffs do have trails all along the Missouri, Omaha is working on the last leg of ours as we speak.
Those continuous parks in Tulsa look really cool though, Omaha more concentrated their riverfront focus downtown between Heartland of America Park and Lewis and Clark Landing. Also Omaha seems to find multiple uses for its riverfront.
Omaha/Council Bluffs do have trails all along the Missouri, Omaha is working on the last leg of ours as we speak.
Those continuous parks in Tulsa look really cool though, Omaha more concentrated their riverfront focus downtown between Heartland of America Park and Lewis and Clark Landing. Also Omaha seems to find multiple uses for its riverfront.
I'm familiar with most of this. What I am unsure of is how I feel about the ConAgra campus replacing the old brick building stock that was there before it. But Omaha is a really great model city for progress. They've gone a long way in a short time.
I'm familiar with most of this. What I am unsure of is how I feel about the ConAgra campus replacing the old brick building stock that was there before it. But Omaha is a really great model city for progress. They've gone a long way in a short time.
It really is bad what they did to downtown, Omaha used to have a nasty habit of tearing down it's history. Jobber's Canyon would be simply amazing if it were still around today.
There are some legitimate arguments that say DTO wouldn't have seen the same progress over the time period if ConAgra hadn't relocated here though. 20 some years ago.
No Sir. Oklahoma is not the south. Tulsa has a lot less of a southern feel than even Oklahoma City.
Just have to totally (but respectfully!) disagree with this sentiment.
You'll notice that earlier in the thread the guy that said Omaha is Midwestern and Tulsa is Southern is from MN = a true Midwest state. His perception of Omaha is that it is part of the Midwest; Tulsa is not. Tulsa is something else....whatever it is, it is not part of the Midwest.
The whole Tulsa vs. OKC stuff is so overplayed and exaggerated. The culture of both towns is so similar that I'm guessing someone not from Oklahoma would find them hardly different with the exception of a few topographical touches/layout of the cities.
I agree with you that neither OK City or Tulsa are the epicenter of Southern culture; that is obvious and I don't know anyone affirming such. However, both cities are more Southern than anything else (if you're looking at the Big 5 Regions: Northeast, Midwest, South, West, Southwest = then Oklahoma and its cities fit best in with the rest of the Greater South)....certainly compared to Omaha, which is the main city of comparison in this thread.
Whatever region you place Fort Worth/Amarillo, for example, Oklahoma City and Tulsa belong in the same region. I've always seen Tulsa/OKC as primarily a fine mixture of Southwestern/Southern rolled into one. The SouthXSouthwest corridor ranges from Austin to Tulsa and everywhere in between, IMO.
Because I've driven across Oklahoma and saw all I needed to see of OKC and Tulsa, and thought "no thanks."
No, thank you!
I totally agree.
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