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Old 03-14-2022, 12:32 PM
 
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That's why i said Atlanta needs to stick being compared to other sprawly strip mall cities like Houston, Dallas, Charlotte, and Phoenix. It's an average city that shouldn't be compared to vibrant urban areas like Miami/Brickell. Miami has really tapped into another tier these past 10 years. Miami is currently building 2 supertalls along with a myriad of other skyscrapers. Whats the tallest building going up in Atlanta? like 300 feet? lol...
They're in the 450 - 500 foot range with one proposal in the 700 - 800 foot range by Rockefeller group. Midtown Atlanta is definitely on a higher level than the equivalent parts of Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, etc. Also, Atlanta office buildings are being sold at all-time record levels. 1180 Peachtree and the new building Microsoft occupies at Atlantic Station both recently set new records for price per square foot.
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Old 03-14-2022, 12:35 PM
 
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And they don't overrate Miami?
Apparently Miami is appropriately rated since it's the greatest city in the world, while Atlanta is considered the worst city in the whole United States, lol. Anyhow on here density = better
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Old 03-14-2022, 12:53 PM
 
Location: OC
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They're in the 450 - 500 foot range with one proposal in the 700 - 800 foot range by Rockefeller group. Midtown Atlanta is definitely on a higher level than the equivalent parts of Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, etc. Also, Atlanta office buildings are being sold at all-time record levels. 1180 Peachtree and the new building Microsoft occupies at Atlantic Station both recently set new records for price per square foot.
Dollar amount or number of buildings?
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Old 03-14-2022, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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how can they overrate Miami?...on this forum I've learned there are only pool sweeping and bus boy jobs in the city, the cars and pedestrians I encounter on a daily basis as an actual year round resident are figments of my imagination, the buildings are all unoccupied (except for the 2 months of the year it's habitable) which are why commercial and residential rents are so high, and all those NY'ers and NY businesses, and others from elsewhere, that have moved here exist only on Youtube,....oh, and only Spanish speaking people live here Did I miss anything?

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Old 03-14-2022, 01:29 PM
 
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Dollar amount or number of buildings?
Dollar amount.
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Old 03-14-2022, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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Which area in the South is considered "Manhattan of the South" easy.. none. Calling something "Manhattan" or the "next" NYC or whatever the hell trend is popular now is just a marketing ploy. Tall buildings and density does not equal being like Manhattan. Sure, Brickell has the tall buildings, but it is still a very dead area for the most part and lacks the social and urban cohesion Manhattan is famous for. Even if it has NY transplants and some companies from NY, it is still nothing close to Manhattan. Brickell just feels like every generic modern downtown neighbourhood with lots of high-rises and terrible integration at street level. As for the others, they aren't either, they are their own unique character that is slowly evolving, and guess what? That's okay. Noone has to be the "next" Manhattan or be compared to Manhattan to become cool or gain brownie points from six people on a forum.
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Old 03-14-2022, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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True…none of these individual neighborhoods have the totality of Manhattan (i.e. there’s no Broadway, park the magnitude of Central Park, Times Square, Chinatown, Little Italy, comparable transit, foot traffic, etc etc) by any of these 3 specified neighborhoods within their respective Southern cities….that’s not to say there cannot be a comparison to a section or neighborhood of Manhattan—which is why I use the analogy of Brickell (a section of Miami) to the flavor of Battery Park (a section of Manhattan)…..just as some, not just myself, see some similarities between South Beach and Santa Monica, but not all of LA…..what Manhattan neighborhoods would you say Uptown Charlotte (is the financial hub located here or elsewhere in the city??) or Midtown Atlanta remind you of in Manhattan and/or have Manhattan elements?

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Which area in the South is considered "Manhattan of the South" easy.. none. Calling something "Manhattan" or the "next" NYC or whatever the hell trend is popular now is just a marketing ploy. Tall buildings and density does not equal being like Manhattan. Sure, Brickell has the tall buildings, but it is still a very dead area for the most part and lacks the social and urban cohesion Manhattan is famous for. Even if it has NY transplants and some companies from NY, it is still nothing close to Manhattan. Brickell just feels like every generic modern downtown neighbourhood with lots of high-rises and terrible integration at street level. As for the others, they aren't either, they are their own unique character that is slowly evolving, and guess what? That's okay. Noone has to be the "next" Manhattan or be compared to Manhattan to become cool or gain brownie points from six people on a forum.

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Old 03-14-2022, 04:18 PM
 
Location: OC
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Dollar amount.
I think one of Atlanta's advantages is it's relative affordability:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/city...e-markets.html
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Old 03-14-2022, 07:31 PM
 
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They're in the 450 - 500 foot range with one proposal in the 700 - 800 foot range by Rockefeller group. Midtown Atlanta is definitely on a higher level than the equivalent parts of Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, etc. Also, Atlanta office buildings are being sold at all-time record levels. 1180 Peachtree and the new building Microsoft occupies at Atlantic Station both recently set new records for price per square foot.

All proposals...Atlanta skyscrapers are notorious for getting height cuts. The last time Atlanta built a building over 600 feet was in 2008. All these new towers getting constructed are in the 300-450 range. Nothing special, good infill tho.


And I mean yeah its about equal to Dallas/Houston, but nothing compared to Austin, let alone Miami.
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Old 03-14-2022, 10:49 PM
 
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Atlanta.
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