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Old 05-28-2010, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Based on that list, I don't think you get to make these shots either.

Los Angeles with the nation's third-best public transit system? On what planet?
Yea, I don't see how anyone could consider Los Angeles to have better public transit than Boston, San Francisco, Washington DC, or Philadelphia haha.
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Isn't that why NYC is excluded from the topic?



I am the OP.
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Well I guess you should have been clearer. You never asked "Which city has the greatest percentage of commuters using public transportation after NYC?" (DC), and you never asked "Which system carried the greatest number of passengers after NYC?" (Chicago). You asked the very generic, totally subjective "What city has the best public transportation system besides NYC?"

I could say Seattle has the best public transportation system because I think their purple streetcars are pretty. And who's to say I'm wrong when no criterion of any kind were specified in the OP?

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I say DC has this hands down with Chicago or Boston trailing behind. Chicago is more than 4 times the size of DC so as far ad being more "well-rounded" goes, DC can say the same. Metro rail is probably the busiest transit system in the US (behind NYC)
FYI, there's a lot more to a mass transit system than just a subway system. DC lacks decent commuter rail, an area Chicago excels in. DC Metro doesn't operate 24/7, Chicago does.
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Yea, I don't see how anyone could consider Los Angeles to have better public transit than Boston, San Francisco, Washington DC, or Philadelphia haha.
Keep in mind the source. It's the same guy who spent several pages arguing Portland was the best, yet it doesn't even show up in the top five he is now spouting on about. I think it's pretty clear now that he either doesn't have a clue, is trying to use some form of dialectic to bring us to a different understanding of transit, or is just a clever troll. I'm guessing the first, with a smidgen of the second (in his own mind that is), all of which results in the third.
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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I really couldn't care less what you decide to hold me to. I'm saying that you are misguided if you think it makes sense to include Baltimore in a discussion about DC's transit usage. To claim otherwise simply shows an ignorance to how distinct the two cities are.
Hmm, who's riding the Camden and Penn MARC lines between Baltimore and DC everyday?
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Keep in mind the source. It's the same guy who spent several pages arguing Portland was the best, yet it doesn't even show up in the top five he is now spouting on about. I think it's pretty clear now that he either doesn't have a clue, is trying to use some form of dialectic to bring us to a different understanding of transit, or is just a clever troll. I'm guessing the first, with a smidgen of the second (in his own mind that is), all of which results in the third.
Very true...he also attempted to discredit PARIS' subway system earlier in the thread...ya the city where you're never further than 500 meters from a metro station regardless of your location in the city. I don't know why I even bothered to respond haha.
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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Please excuse EndersDrift, he has been smoking a little too much bud making him delusional.

jjacob, what is #'s with bus routes?
bt he is actually making sense, and pulling out some sources, i think yall are just clowning on him to much and of coarse are sleeping on portland.
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Denver
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I don't think anyone is sleeping on Portland...it's just that no one agrees that it's better or on the same level as Chicago, DC, Boston, San Francisco, or Philly.
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:42 AM
 
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You don't get to make these shots. This is the answer until someone shows any sort of report saying otherwise.

1. New York City
2. Chicago
3. Los Angeles
4. San Francisco
5. Washington D.C.
Did you really put Los Angeles at #3. Why are you telling people what to do when you obviously are clueless?
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Old 05-28-2010, 11:02 AM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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Well I guess you should have been clearer. You never asked "Which city has the greatest percentage of commuters using public transportation after NYC?" (DC), and you never asked "Which system carried the greatest number of passengers after NYC?" (Chicago). You asked the very generic, totally subjective "What city has the best public transportation system besides NYC?"

I could say Seattle has the best public transportation system because I think their purple streetcars are pretty. And who's to say I'm wrong when no criterion of any kind were specified in the OP?



FYI, there's a lot more to a mass transit system than just a subway system. DC lacks decent commuter rail, an area Chicago excels in. DC Metro doesn't operate 24/7, Chicago does.
It was never meant to be a specific question. It's how convenient the public transportation is that determines what city has the best Public Trans (how much coverage and how reliable the systems are for commuters). That's what I was assuming people would understand.

Questions like "Which city has the greatest percentage of commuters using public transportation after NYC?" and "Which system carried the greatest number of passengers after NYC?" can be answered by a quick search on google and doesn't prove much, especially the number of passengers..

Percentage does seem to be a strong factor in determining the best public trans system, but like you mentioned- DC isn't always reliable, and less reliable than Chicago but which city has the better coverage? DC has better coverage IMO.
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Old 05-28-2010, 11:11 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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DC's public transport ranks high compared to most other cities in the U.S. But it is still largely inadequate, especially for commuters in suburban Maryland and NoVa. The traffic congestion in the area has been intolerable for many years.
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