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Old 06-02-2010, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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I constantly see the thread starter (Nineties flava) going into different threads and trying to hype up the west coast while putting off the East Coast/Midwest as "nothing". He has no clue about the East Coast or Midwest.
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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That's NYC? really?
why are you shocked? nyc has more single/multi family homes then buildings. lol i think you need to come out to nyc again lol
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:00 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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I constantly see the thread starter (Nineties flava) going into different threads and trying to hype up the west coast while putting off the East Coast/Midwest as "nothing". He has no clue about the East Coast or Midwest.


... lol. I didn't say the east/midwest was nothing... I was asking why are the houses in some poor neighborhoods on the east coast really big. You don't see that out in the west... My question got answered in this thread.


My family's from out in the midwest... Gary IN to be exact. I've been there multiple times. Why would I think the midwest is nothing? I want to go to NY for college... I have family all over the east coast. Why would I think the east coast is nothing?


It does somewhat irk me that some people who've never been to the west coast think that people on the west coast are crybabies and don't know what "real poverty" looks like.
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:01 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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why are you shocked? nyc has more single/multi family homes then buildings. lol i think you need to come out to nyc again lol

Everybody thinks of Times Square when they think of NY... I'm guilty of it too. I just would have thought that more of it would be rowhouses than not.
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I'm just curious though... what consistently makes poor neighborhoods on the west coast seem inviting compared to the equivalent neighborhoods on the east coast to east coasters?
A big part of it owes to development patterns reflecting how different eras were influenced by then-existing transportation infrastructure. You'll notice that as you move Norheast to Southwest across the country, with a few exceptions cities are less and less densely developed.

Older cities (mostly in the Northeast but some in the upper Midwest) had their major growth spurts when the train and trolley were the primary means for an individual to get around, so residential development was densely built along the rail lines. Out on the West Coast and much of the Sun Belt, most of the cities hit their major growth spurt after the car had become the primary means of transport. That meant developers didn't have to cram everyone as close to the central business district as possible and didn't have to cram everyone along fixed transportation lines. Even the middle class could afford a single-family home on its own lot, whereas in the older cities before the "car" era, that was mostly a luxury for the well-heeled. All the other minions had to live cheek-to-jowl in or near the city.

Of course, just because the West Coast's run-down areas "seem" more inviting.... doesn't mean they actually are. 'Hood is 'hood from coast to coast.
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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nineties flava, i would of thought you would know that the borough of staten island in new york city is 90 percent single/multi family homes.

also in queens the whole southern portion and the rockaways are 85 percent single/multi family homes.

the boroughs who give more of the nyc building stereotype are mainly manhattan/bronxx/brooklyn.

but honestly only manhattan should have the stereotype because their is barely any single homes in manhatttan, only the brownstones would count , but manhattan is 90 percent buildings/brownstone.

both bronx and brooklyn have more sinlge/multi family homes then just buildings.

the funny thing is people love portraying the south and west bronx lol, but after those areas the bronx is mainly made up of houses.
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:03 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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A big part of it owes to development patterns reflecting how different eras were influenced by then-existing transportation infrastructure. You'll notice that as you move Norheast to Southwest across the country, with a few exceptions cities are less and less densely developed.

Older cities (mostly in the Northeast but some in the upper Midwest) had their major growth spurts when the train and trolley were the primary means for an individual to get around, so residential development was densely built along the rail lines. Out on the West Coast and much of the Sun Belt, most of the cities hit their major growth spurt after the car had become the primary means of transport. That meant developers didn't have to cram everyone as close to the central business district as possible and didn't have to cram everyone along fixed transportation lines. Even the middle class could afford a single-family home on its own lot, whereas in the older cities before the "car" era, that was mostly a luxury for the well-heeled. All the other minions had to live cheek-to-jowl in or near the city.

This makes perfect sense... thanks for answering my question
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Jersey Boy living in Florida
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Thanks, I'm definitely looking forward to it!
I just used this thread to shed some light on Newark.
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ckh,
Syracuse looks so much better in person, I always feel like google maps makes most places look dreary (unless it's in an HD zone)
I agree, I think most places look better in person as compared to videos, pictures, and especially google maps. Is it just me or does google maps give you a sort of fish lens view of things?
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:05 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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I constantly see the thread starter (Nineties flava) going into different threads and trying to hype up the west coast while putting off the East Coast/Midwest as "nothing". He has no clue about the East Coast or Midwest.
I don't think that's necessarily the case.
I think he/she is trying to prove that the West Coast isn't "all that" in terms of the common (yet Ignorant) perception made by people who make it seem like the West Coast is perfect in almost every single way.
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:05 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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nineties flava, i would of thought you would know that the borough of staten island in new york city is 90 percent single/multi family homes.

also in queens the whole southern portion and the rockaways are 85 percent single/multi family homes.

the boroughs who give more of the nyc building stereotype are mainly manhattan/bronxx/brooklyn.

but honestly only manhattan should have the stereotype because their is barely any single homes in manhatttan, only the brownstones would count , but manhattan is 90 percent buildings/brownstone.

both bronx and brooklyn have more sinlge/multi family homes then just buildings.

the funny thing is people love portraying the south and west bronx lol, but after those areas the bronx is mainly made up of houses.

You're right, I'll have to go to NY again since I'm not 4 years old anymore... lol

Now that I know that it makes more sense than not. I just have images of rowhouses from watching shows like Everybody Hates Chris when I was younger... lol
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