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its one sided. its like a lil brother always trying to one up the big brother but he can't. the big brother could just be sitting there eating a sandwich and the lil brother has to eat his faster or something. the big brother just looks over at him as he chokes from eating too fast like, "..."
Chicago may have invented the steel "skyscraper," but New York made the skyscraper the actual skyscraper. Not sure what the L means... but I am pretty sure subways were in NY before Chicago. Chicago is always trying to one up NY, especially evident after they announce the Spire right after NY announces the Freedom Tower. And also take into account the Sears Tower is finished 3 years after the World Trade Center, and didn't they add on a longer spire to the Sears Tower to beat the World Trade Center by 3 feet?
The Chicago Subway is called the "L" because it's short for elevated. The majority of Chicago's rail is above ground (much like the train lines in portions of Brooklyn & Queens), even in downtown.
I'm not really sure that Chicago is trying to compete with NYC in terms of building height. Most of that stuff is really driven by private developers. I don't think the Chicago spire will even get built. Also, the Sears Tower did not need a spire to be taller than the World Trade. It's about 200 feet taller if going by the roof tops.
Anyway, NYC and Chicago are pretty different in character. Chicago does not really feel like a smaller version of NYC.
The Chicago Subway is called the "L" because it's short for elevated. The majority of Chicago's rail is above ground (much like the train lines in portions of Brooklyn & Queens), even in downtown.
I'm not really sure that Chicago is trying to compete with NYC in terms of building height. Most of that stuff is really driven by private developers. I don't think the Chicago spire will even get built. Also, the Sears Tower did not need a spire to be taller than the World Trade. It's about 200 feet taller if going by the roof tops.
Anyway, NYC and Chicago are pretty different in character. Chicago does not really feel like a smaller version of NYC.
From my research, the Sears Tower is 1450 feet to the roof and World Trade Center Tower was 1368 feet to the roof. Then they put on a spire and it beat the WTC's spire by 3 feet. Insecurity or what? But the Sears tower was less than 100 feet taller, not about 200 feet taller.
Chicago is so determined to have the tallest building it is almost funny. It is like every time I look over there they are watching every move to the sky NY makes and trying to beat it. And to be fully honest with you, I thought it was sort of disrespectful when the Freedom Tower was announced and then Chicago jumped in with the Spire, especially the Freedom Tower being a testement of strength and coming back even stronger. The joke is on Chicago though, they are the only one playing.
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From my research, the Sears Tower is 1450 feet to the roof and World Trade Center Tower was 1368 feet to the roof. Then they put on a spire and it beat the WTC's spire by 3 feet. Insecurity or what? But the Sears tower was less than 100 feet taller, not about 200 feet taller.
Chicago is so determined to have the tallest building it is almost funny. It is like every time I look over there they are watching every move to the sky NY makes and trying to beat it. And to be fully honest with you, I thought it was sort of disrespectful when the Freedom Tower was announced and then Chicago jumped in with the Spire, especially the Freedom Tower being a testement of strength and coming back even stronger. The joke is on Chicago though, they are the only one playing.
OK, you're correct. It is 100', not 200'.
Sears tower is 1451' (top of roof) + Spire for 1730' total.
World Trade is 1362' & 1368' (top of roof)
But the World Trade "spire" was basically an antenna, not an archectural detail like on the Sears Tower.
It's not like the City of Chicago annouced the Spire as some sort of contest. A developer from Ireland is behind it. Personally I think the spire is ugly, and it will not get built anyway.
You've stated repeatedly in the past that the only place you've ever been to or were interested in was the Bay Area. You have also stated you had no desire to go to SoCal because you thought it would be too hot.
LIVING I meant. I still have visited each city. I wouldn't visit southern CA now after living in this brutal heat for almost 3 years. Though it isn't as hot as it is in south Florida.
LIVING I meant. I still have visited each city. I wouldn't visit southern CA now after living in this brutal heat for almost 3 years. Though it isn't as hot as it is in south Florida.
Sorry, I don't believe a word of this. Your post history doesn't go away just because your story changes.
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